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Post by DJ_Izumi » Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:53 am

I just go to the grocery store. o.O:

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Post by EarthCurrent » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:01 am

DJ_Izumi wrote:I just go to the grocery store. o.O:
Oh yeah, it would be far better if the meat I eat were from a stock farm raised, hormone injected cow that had its life ended by a blunt blow to the head.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:02 am

I probabbly take more hormones then the cows. ^^;

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Post by kthulhu » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:03 am

DJ_Izumi wrote: As for the 'Using the real thing' screw the constituion, aiming firearms at your actors and fireing tends to get you arrested.


Well of course. Like I said in my previous post ^-^
DJ_Izumi wrote:You can also use weapons that you couldn't legally precure, like the SPAS-12. Hentai Demon slaying shotgun of choice. XD
Good thing I can get a SPAS-12 legally then ^_^. Lousy hentai demons, always coming around my place when they mean to visit the neighbors in back.
DJ_Izumi wrote:Secondly, I hate firearms, and would never ever touch a real one. Represting them in film is a different story though. Not that I intend to use firearms in Tachibana... cept maybe a Handgun at some point.
This is something I don't quite get or understand. If people don't like firearms in real life, why do they accept them or find them OK in movies? Most movies that have them are not of the highest intellectual or artistic value, and create unhealthy attitudes towards firearms in the more impressionable folk (of which there are depressingly many). Can you shed some light on this?
earthcurrent wrote:Bah, I eventually sold my hand guns off. I had Taurus 9mm automatic and a S&W .45 revolver. I still have my hunting rifles and shotgun, which at least have a purpose in that I acquire food with them.
Considering that you hunt, apparently, how do you think that new .500 caliber revolver from Smith & Wesson would do in the outdoors? Good for taking out rabbits :twisted: ?
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Post by EarthCurrent » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:08 am

kthulhu wrote:Considering that you hunt, apparently, how do you think that new .500 caliber revolver from Smith & Wesson would do in the outdoors? Good for taking out rabbits :twisted: ?
I guess if you like your rabbits pre-mangled for the stew pot. :roll:
Personally I use my .223 for hunting rabbits and grouse.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:11 am

This is something I don't quite get or understand. If people don't like firearms in real life, why do they accept them or find them OK in movies?
First of all, any firearms I use are plot relevant, and used realisticly. It's not like some Japanese school girl whips out a pair of beretta's and mows down a SWAT team in one dive. For most points I use them, they won't be fired, just used in angsty stand offs.

As for, why do I think weapons have some use in film, but not the real world? Probabbly the same reason I like to see characters die, but not REAL people die. (I love to cry over anime. ;-;)

As for the SPAS-12, no new ones will be entering the United States. The ATF declared them to be excessive, as Frenchi tried to marked them for hunting purposes. Who ever needs a Semi-automatic 12 guage shotgun to hunt, isn't huting anything convential.

"Ho dang Eugene, lets go car huntin' by the highway agian!"

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Post by kthulhu » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:36 am

DJ_Izumi wrote:As for the SPAS-12, no new ones will be entering the United States. The ATF declared them to be excessive, as Frenchi tried to marked them for hunting purposes. Who ever needs a Semi-automatic 12 guage shotgun to hunt, isn't huting anything convential.
Actually, it's something of a mystery to me WHY the SPAS-12 would be banned from further import. Remington, for instance, makes autoloading (another term for semi-automatic, if I'm not mistaken) 12 gauge shotguns (in the conventional long style), that hold a fair amount of shells - certainly more than just a single or dual barrelled shotgun.

For that matter, I wonder if it would still be banned if it was made in pump-action or semi-automatic only - not both modes like it can do.

Sounds like ATF and government busywork to me. I wouldn't hunt with a SPAS-12, but just because it looks more "military" than "hunting", and has select fire capability, is not a good reason to ban it, in my opinion. Hopefully the ban legislation fails when it comes up for renewal later this year or next.
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Post by EarthCurrent » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:40 am

Oh, time for a huntin' story from ol' Uncle Earthcurrent.

Back when I was a wee pup I was out huntin' elk with my pa. We were up on this ridge looking down into this valley where a local rancher had a grazing permit for his cows. We had passed by a bunch of hunters who had parked in the valley, but we moved on not wanting to be around the livestock. Anyway, about an hour later bump into another hunter, who said that he had spotted a herd of elk moving down a slope just beyond us into the valley. We decide to move off the ridge and move toward the slope, hoping that perhaps the herd would move toward us rather than drop into the valley. About five minutes later, though, hell breaks loose in the valley. Appearantly the elk herd and run into the groups of hunters parked in the valley, and they had opened up on the herd with every weapon they had at their disposal. There were obviously a few hunters with semi automatics as well, as I could clearly hear them popping off four or five rounds in a few seconds. The shooting went on for a couple minutes before it finally died off. We wandered on the ridge for about another half hour thinking perhaps some of the elk might have turned and bolted back up toward us, but we didn't run into anything, so we decided to head back to our truck in the valley. When we got back to where the hunter groups had been parked we were little surprised to see several game and fish vehicles parked nearby, however we were surprised to see several of the hunters sitting on the ground with handcuffs on. My dad knew one of the game wardens on the scene and managed to flag him down to ask what had happened. As it turns out, the hunters who had been in the parking lot, of which there were about 10, had spotted the elk herd moving across the valley and had started shooting at them. In their excitement though several of them kept shooting, and managed to kill 8 elk though the warden figured several more elk had probably run off with lightor serious wounds. They had also managed to kill 2 cows and wound 6 others with their barrage of fire as the elk herd had moved between the hunters and the livestock. 4 of the hunters had been using semi-automatic rifles. Afterward, my dad griped about this saying the incident probably wouldn't have happened if the hunters had been using single shot bolt or lever action rifles, which would have made them take more time to think and aim their shots, rather than getting caught up in the moment and relying on being able to quickly pepper their target with bullets.

After that incident I cringe somewhat when I hear people tell me that they use semi-automatics to hunt because they like being able to take a quick second shot. Seriously, if you can't trust yourself to be bring down the animal with one shot, who shouldn't take the shot. Pretty simple rule of thumb.

And thus ends another story.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:43 am

I'm reminded of an episode of Band Of Brothers from that. When they catch two squads of SS by suprise. XD

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Post by EarthCurrent » Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:45 am

DJ_Izumi wrote:I'm reminded of an episode of Band Of Brothers from that. When they catch two squads of SS by suprise. XD
That's certainly what it sounded like... :?

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