New Comp Advice

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:09 am

Hmm. I have no desire whatsoever to overcloack. As a matter of fact the idea makes my stomach go a little queezy. Not because I'm afraid of changning jumpers (although I'm sure it's a jumperless board) I'm just afraid of heat, and the extra wear and tear on the procs as I have had problems with this before. Besides, I would rather have overall system stability than that 50 some odd MHz increase.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but when you have an SMP system your tasks get devided up, rather than the overall workload. Like, if premiere was the only thing runing, it wouldn't matter because it would only be using one of the procs.
If I go the SMP way, can I still buy a motherboard with a 333 MHz FSB? That looked tasty the way you described it. And the MPs don't go as high as the XPs, do they?
I'll look up stuff on what ErMaC has said about his system, because that's one guy I'm going to trust with his opinion about computers (along with yourself of course

)
btw, I also wanted to ask what you thought about OSs. I was thinking that I might dual boot 2000 and 98, but what do you think would be better in terms of editing and overall compatibility. (I know 98 can't support SMP)

Also, for everyone else out there: I want to hear your opinions! What do you have to say?

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:10 pm

Klinky wrote: You cannot use the 333Mhz XPs in a dual processor system.

- Well, there are no 333Mhz motherboards or approved MP processors that support it.

SMP. It's a bit different. Inside programs there are threads of instruction. Threads can be slit up on multiple cpus. Threads are usually "self-contained" parts of code. Say the code for compressing, decompressing or applying a effect. So one CPU can be decompressing your video stream, the other can be applying some effects and compressing it. These applications are usually called "multi-threaded" applications.

Premiere is multithreaded. So it would use both of your CPUs.

As for a OS. You need one that supports two CPUs. Windows 2000 Professional or XP Professional(XP Home, does NOT support two CPUs). Or even Linux or Windows NT

~klinky

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:15 pm

klinky wrote:As for a OS. You need one that supports two CPUs. Windows 2000 Professional or XP Professional(XP Home, does NOT support two CPUs). Or even Linux or Windows NT

~klinky

Hey, it's not so bad. Isn't it NDW and someone else always pushing Linux? I'll bet Linux and all of it's FREE editing software has some baddass multi-threading.
Is AVS multi-thread?
Honestly, how many programs would benefit from the multi-proc setup, and how many would simply see it as 1 proc? Will it really be worth it for the 300 some odd dolars to have two 2 GHz procs?
Oh, and what is the deal with registered RAM? Is there any difference between it and normal RAM?
What is Lite-on?
Are there no Nforce dual chip boards?
Thank you!

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:19 pm

I jsut thought of something else!
What about dual monitors? Does that video card support more than one monitor?

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:09 pm

Alot of your questions could be found by looking around

:p

I am not sure who NDW is ? I know Trythil uses linux and keeps pimping it quite a few times :p

Linux is not the best platform for video editing at the moment. Also it's a bitch to setup if you're new to it.

Quite a few programs do support SMP. Just in general you'll see a boost in multi-tasking since a few programs will be running on one CPU and a couple will be running on another. Even if you don't run a multi-threaded application you can still see a performance boost. Such as one CPU dedicated to burning a CD, while another compresses a video in VirtualDub.

I've never used a dual-cpu system so I can't really give you a whole lot of first-hand knowledge. But, I think it would be worth it.

Registered RAM, has a extra buffer on it. This aids in stability. It also has ECC. Error Correcting Code, which also aids in stability.

Lite-On is a company. Like Sony or BTC. They just make the things.

Nforce is not designed for SMP and I doubt you'll ever see a SMP Nforce chipset. Currently the only chipsets that supports SMP are ones from AMD themselves.

Dual monitors depends on the cards. Many, Many, Many cards have two outputs on them. You can get a GF2mx with 2 outputs. There are many others as well.

~klinky

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:10 pm

klinky,

Get the hell on you stupid, stupid man!

MegaMouth · Post by **MegaMouth** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:21 pm

If yall have any romantic inguiries about youzez computators, i gotz yo answer: Take the tower, spin dat bitch around, and stick it up yo ass.
East si, west si, NIGGA!!!

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:24 pm

MegaMouth wrote:If yall have any romantic inguiries about youzez computators, i gotz yo answer: Take the tower, spin dat bitch around, and stick it up yo ass.
East si, west si, NIGGA!!!

Can I be the stewardist in your plane of LOVE?

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:28 pm

You can kick his ass. I strongly suggest it.

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:00 am

klinky wrote:Alot of your questions could be found by looking around :p

I know, I'm sorry, I just need someone to hold my hand. ^_^
Thank you so much Klinky! I think I have what I need to know figured out. I just need to do some more homework on my own. I just really wish I could get some more people's opions from within the org because you guys are the ones dealing with all the same tools I am, and I want to know how they respond to things like RAID, dual processors, and DDR, or how dual monitors changes the editing expirience. That's the kind of stuff only expirience can tell.
Thank you again Klinky!