Why won't my Freakin DEFRAG work?

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Why won't my Freakin DEFRAG work?

Post by Stoic » Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:31 pm

Yo when ever I do a Defrag it always ends up looking the same. Only a slightly less amount of Fragmented files. Isn't the point of a Defrag to get rid of ALL FRAGMENTED Files?

Any Ideas?

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Post by Mr Pilkington » Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:45 pm

Three finger salute. End all but "explorer", "rundll(32)" , "systray."

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Re: Why won't my Freakin DEFRAG work?

Post by trythil » Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:46 pm

Stoic wrote:Yo when ever I do a Defrag it always ends up looking the same. Only a slightly less amount of Fragmented files. Isn't the point of a Defrag to get rid of ALL FRAGMENTED Files?

Any Ideas?
A defragmenter will only act on data that is safe to act upon. If a file is currently mapped in memory, the defragmenter cannot do anything with it.

Well, technically, it can, but most filesystem access layers these days keep internal state information, and pulling the rug out on the layer can lead to bad, bad things. (Think filesystem death.) Besides, if you're running a real OS, you'd have an access permissions model in the way, anyway.

Therefore it's wise to ensure that nothing -- and I mean _nothing_ -- else is running when you defragment.

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Post by Stoic » Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:53 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:Three finger salute. End all but "explorer", "rundll(32)" , "systray."

Try again.
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Post by Mr Pilkington » Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:56 pm

Then you need a better OS. If the three fingered salute failed then your screwed. Either reformat or repair, either may result in a loss of information. May I suggest an upgrade:
2k pro,
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Post by trythil » Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:11 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:Then you need a better OS. If the three fingered salute failed then your screwed. Either reformat or repair, either may result in a loss of information. May I suggest an upgrade:
2k pro,
Linux,
exc...
Actually, it's _harder_ to defragment under Win2K and/or Linux, because you (intentionally) need to jump through a lot more hoops to get the kind of direct access needed to move data blocks around. All filesystems will suffer from fragmentation sooner or later (even if that later is "much later"), so you're not gonna necessarily fix things by switching OSes.

However, if there's some programs lurking around that won't let you rearrange files, then you either have to play search-and-destroy in your initialization files, or reinstall. Most people prefer option #2.

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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:50 pm

Also.. just to state the obvious a little... you need around 30% of your HD as free space in order to do a sucessful defragmentation.

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Post by Stoic » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:33 pm

I'm using XP Pro I have 33% Space Free
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Post by Farlo » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:43 pm

xp pro with a 14gig hd and............88% free

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Post by Summanaro » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:38 pm

scan disk then defragment? that's what I do, but well.. I'm just a internet geinius..
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