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Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by World Domination Studios » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:52 pm

There have been a LOT of videos that got taken down from certain video-hosting sites before certain downloading programs became widely known.

Other videos were successfully downloaded before being taken down, but were then then lost anyway due to hard drive death.

Some videos were only ever available from file-sharing networks and were never centrally hosted. These, too, became permanently unavailable due to a combination of hard drive death and the networks withering away.

Some videos, like the Buffy videos made by 4Paws studios, are lost because copyright-holders went after people who hosted their own videos.

But in every case, I can almost guarantee that there is someone, somewhere, who still has that video. I personally have two of those aforementioned Buffy videos (I used to have all of them, but most were only on a single hard drive that is now dead), a lost episode of Action Figure Therapy that made fun of Kanye West, and some other ancient goodies, and I just got done "reconstructing" the literal video version of Meatloaf's "Anything for Love" (https://vimeo.com/302348355). SOMEONE out there has the Battlestar Galactica music video with Green Day's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". SOMEONE out there has the Bayformers video with the "Television Rules the Nation / Around the World / Harder Better Faster Stronger" mashup from Daft Punk's "Live 2007" album. These people must be found; they must be encouraged to contact each other and share their archives with each other and with everyone else by whatever means possible. A database of "lost" videos must be built, indicating the lost or found status of each video.

Since these are not all anime, this would be an independent project from what The Org is doing.

Who's with me?

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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by Kionon » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:25 am

World Domination Studios wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:52 pm
A database of "lost" videos must be built, indicating the lost or found status of each video.
This sounds a lot like The Vault, which was essentially created to do just that. Although I have no idea who still controls a version of it, if it even exists. I can't recall who last had an active version. Malificus, perhaps?

Myself, GloryQuestor, Nate, and probably a few others have a lot of the videos from The Vault. I have a number of 2001 and earlier videos, but I can only speak to AMVs, not Vidding, because I have never made nor really watched live-action music videos (with extremely rare exceptions, like Prodigi's). I am sure we could manage to splice together another copy of The Vault, but given how much there is to do already, just how much of a need/desire is there to do? And adding LAMVs would further complicate the project.
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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by CrackTheSky » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 am

Kionon wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:25 am
This sounds a lot like The Vault, which was essentially created to do just that. Although I have no idea who still controls a version of it, if it even exists. I can't recall who last had an active version. Malificus, perhaps?
That was Minion who used to control it, and then he took it down, however I know that ngsilver had a copy of everything on there as of about four years ago. I don't think it's still around in an accessible format though.


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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by World Domination Studios » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:52 am

What is this... "Vault"?

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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by CrackTheSky » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:05 pm

World Domination Studios wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:52 am
What is this... "Vault"?
It was an archive of AMVs that were not available on the .org or anywhere else -- before the .org, and way before YouTube, there was no centralized place for people to store their videos, so editors had to host videos on their own servers (which were more expensive back then) or distribute them through file-sharing services, so many never made it onto the .org. The Vault was created to share such videos with people back in like 2006 or so, however the owner, Minion, eventually took it down. I know ngsilver had created his own backup but I don't know if either of them still have the ability to share those videos easily.

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Post by seasons » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:00 pm

I have a folder on my computer called "Vault AMVs." It has 44 videos in it. Is this the whole vault or did I just download a part of it?

I remember grabbing this a few years years ago from...wherever it was hosted. Maybe I'd heard that it was about to be taken down, I don't remember.


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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by Kireblue » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:59 pm

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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by the Black Monarch » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:01 am

Thank you very much, Kireblue!

I'm currently looking for a job. As soon as I get moneys again, I'm going to buy a replacement AC adapter that's compatible with Outhouse, my old 120 GB external hard drive and the very first external HD that I ever owned. It never suffered mechanical failure and should theoretically still work. If so, I'll be able to dig up a LOT of ancient and venerable music videos from the dark ages to share with all of you. Additionally, Scintilla has introduced me to a file-sharing program that has allowed me to get some of those old videos back.
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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by the Black Monarch » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:41 am

Add the Nuclear Tuxedo Production Team's entire filmography to the list. The Org doesn't even have an entry for their video using clips from The Matrix and the song "What is Love?" by Haddaway. That's another one that I hope to recover from Outhouse.
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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by magifyre » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:58 am

I would also be interested in seeing an archive of old dead AMVs. There are some that I've been trying to find for years and can't seem to locate them anywhere on the internet. One in particular that really gets under my skin is an old One Piece AMV to the song "Reason" by Nami Tamaki. It was called One Piece - Pirate Way, made by someone called Pirat Zorro, and it focused mainly around the Davy Back game, and earlier since it was from around the 2004-2006 timeframe. The artist and creator having names that are main crew members in the series really doesn't make doing google searches any easier either. I was able to find another AMV for One Piece to that song on this site, but it's not the version I'm looking for. If anyone knows where to find this video I will love you long time.

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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by CrackTheSky » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:32 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:41 am
Add the Nuclear Tuxedo Production Team's entire filmography to the list. The Org doesn't even have an entry for their video using clips from The Matrix and the song "What is Love?" by Haddaway. That's another one that I hope to recover from Outhouse.
I would recommend reaching out to ngsilver as well. I don't know if he still comes around here but at one time he had hundreds(?) of videos from the Vault on his own personal server. I'm sure he'd be willing to share what he has if he still has it. I would be very interested in anything you have.

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Re: Compiling a knowledge base of "lost" videos

Post by the Black Monarch » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:15 am

CrackTheSky wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:32 pm
I would be very interested in anything you have.
At the moment, what I have is limited to what I've been able to get from extant sources - mostly the Org and Youtube. I need to get a job, buy an AC adapter for an old 120 GB Western Digital external hard drive, and see if said old hard drive still works after 15+ years before I can offer anything rare and lost... unless you want to just buy one and have it sent to my house, in which case I can give you my address via PM.

EDIT: wait, I forgot about the old videos that survived by virtue of being in the "best-of" collection. For example, I still have two of Jet Wolf's old Buffy videos, and the one with Sonic the Hedgehog SatAM and the song "The Flame" by Cheap Trick, and the one with Robocop and "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey, and whatever Evangelion videos date back to that period...

EDIT 2: Yeah, among other things, I still have an Evangelion music video set to Linkin Park's "My December" that isn't available from the Org. I don't know whose it is, only that it's not tompi_boy's and it's not charmandersvg's. And I have the Eva video set to "Crucify" by Tori Amos. But the vast majority of the impossible-to-find shit will be on that hard drive.
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