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Post by CaTaClYsM » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:01 am

Allow me to point out the irony of you sig and avatar. And how they are completely different.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab

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Post by Wykith » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:23 am

the Black Monarch wrote:A Christian who doesn't believe in God? Now there's something you don't see every day!
Are you shittin' me? I see that everyday. People saying "Feeear the word of the looooord". And then going home and beating up their kids.
Bunch of fucking hypocrites in my opinion. They wouldn't "sin" if they really believed all the shit they preach. And by the way,
the Black Monarch wrote:The biggest lie in Christianity is that Jesus died for everyone's sins. He died because the Romans didn't like him, not because he wanted to die so he could save everyone. It's such a load of crap. The rest is okay, though. I have no problem with the "love thy neighbor" parts.
I totally agree.
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Post by ryu amata » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:23 am

The biggest lie in Christianity is that Jesus died for everyone's sins. He died because the Romans didn't like him, not because he wanted to die so he could save everyone. It's such a load of crap.
I just love when someone that knows nothing of the religion has a statement. The fact is Jesus already knew that he was to be killed. He could have escaped at any point. He also had the power to have the entire civilization erased, but he chose not to. At no point did he have to die. He is a God after all.
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Post by Wykith » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:26 am

ryu amata wrote:
The biggest lie in Christianity is that Jesus died for everyone's sins. He died because the Romans didn't like him, not because he wanted to die so he could save everyone. It's such a load of crap.
I just love when someone that knows nothing of the religion has a statement. The fact is Jesus already knew that he was to be killed. He could have escaped at any point. He also had the power to have the entire civilization erased, but he chose not to. At no point did he have to die. He is a God after all.
He is the SON of god, and he didn't have the power to wipe out anyone. To even suggest he would for an instant, consider it, is to compromise the entire base of the religion itself.
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Post by Tom the Fish » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:32 am

To have a better idea about the story of Christ as told by the Bible, may I suggest reading Christ by Jack Miles (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=books). It's an excellent book that changed my view of the Bible, viewing it as a literary work as opposed to dogma.

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Post by Timelessblurr » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:37 am

you know this topic going to became worst then the nintendo ps topic did. You should all know that you are playing with fire right now because religion beliefs are very strong in most people. Also this thread has become even more off topic than "the grave of fire fly" thread did and that thread was pretty far off topic

Just though I would point that out 2 you all
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Post by ryu amata » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:47 am

He is the SON of god, and he didn't have the power to wipe out anyone. To even suggest he would for an instant, consider it, is to compromise the entire base of the religion itself
Thats one of the tricky parts. He is part of the trinity, the three parts of God. That is just his humanoid state.

As for the base of the religion part. You are so very true, it does go against it. Thats why i don't go for the baptist or any other kind of christianity anymore. He did have the power to wipe them out with a matter of words. Just think how many other civilisations God wiped-out. It states in the bible of a about 5 civilizations he wiped-out just because they disagreed with him.
Madness and genius are seperated only by degrees of success.
I don't think necessity is the mother of invention - invention, in my opinion, arises directly from idleness, possibly from laziness. To save oneself trouble.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.- Plato[/size:9c37a4d335]

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Post by Wykith » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:48 am

Timelessblurr wrote:you know this topic going to became worst then the nintendo ps topic did. You should all know that you are playing with fire right now because religion beliefs are very strong in most people. Also this thread has become even more off topic than "the grave of fire fly" thread did and that thread was pretty far off topic

Just though I would point that out 2 you all
You're absolutely right. This is not the place for religious delegation and it is THE most dangerous topic you could possibly touch up on.
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Post by ryu amata » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:52 am

Yeah good idea lets keep our thoughts to ouselves on this one. Anyways two eaters of noob shouldn't argue about something neither of us qualify for. :P
Madness and genius are seperated only by degrees of success.
I don't think necessity is the mother of invention - invention, in my opinion, arises directly from idleness, possibly from laziness. To save oneself trouble.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.- Plato[/size:9c37a4d335]

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Post by Lyrs » Thu Dec 19, 2002 12:59 pm

ryu amata wrote:To many others the fact that there is an almighty God that hasn't physically affected their everyday life to make it better means he is either crual or doesn't exist. :?
God is is overrated - My opinion.

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