The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Panky » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:03 pm

Kionon wrote:
Panky wrote:It might be hard to believe due to the amount of people active on the forums, but there are around 1million registered users in the org (1026783 according to the main site) which, coming for a fan-made anime videos is quite amazing. But many have lost the path probably because there were many problems in knowing where to go, or what to do. And now like Corran said there are so many streaming sites that chances are they won't find this or won't think it's appealing (due to uploading process, commenting, or others).
Most of them are probably brief participants if participants at all, and hundreds of thousands of them haven't been back to the org in years. It is very disingenuous to take that number and try to make any kind of argument. It's a false number, representing many, many "phantom" users who do not really exist.
If you think about it for a while, even if they came here to watch one video, they could have stayed to watch another 10, participate on the website or even start editing themselves. And I don't think there's a big amount of spammers or double accounts in that number (although I'm not sure if registration from the forum has been for too long, since that can bring a 'bigger' amount of spammers). If the org were to make a big change in the website structure and the way it works, I guess you could send a mass mail to announce it and see what kind of reaction it brings to those that actually care and would login and see, right? It's a good userbase that could be brought back.

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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Nya-chan Production » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:07 pm

Panky wrote:
Kionon wrote:
Panky wrote:It might be hard to believe due to the amount of people active on the forums, but there are around 1million registered users in the org (1026783 according to the main site) which, coming for a fan-made anime videos is quite amazing. But many have lost the path probably because there were many problems in knowing where to go, or what to do. And now like Corran said there are so many streaming sites that chances are they won't find this or won't think it's appealing (due to uploading process, commenting, or others).
Most of them are probably brief participants if participants at all, and hundreds of thousands of them haven't been back to the org in years. It is very disingenuous to take that number and try to make any kind of argument. It's a false number, representing many, many "phantom" users who do not really exist.
If you think about it for a while, even if they came here to watch one video, they could have stayed to watch another 10, participate on the website or even start editing themselves. And I don't think there's a big amount of spammers or double accounts in that number (although I'm not sure if registration from the forum has been for too long, since that can bring a 'bigger' amount of spammers). If the org were to make a big change in the website structure and the way it works, I guess you could send a mass mail to announce it and see what kind of reaction it brings to those that actually care and would login and see, right? It's a good userbase that could be brought back.
If that were a case (watching other videos or editing) they would log in in these years. But I would not be against a mail - supposed the mails were working, ofc.
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Kaream » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:54 pm

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Yeah, someones stole my Naruto Ball Z and got over 20 million views with it. I was able to get the offender to remove the video, but there are still people who've uploaded the video and have far more hits than my upload. :(
I'm still not over it, you should have told him to credit you in the description cause after all, it was the most viewed amv of all time. :P
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by OtakuGray » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:50 pm

I see a lot of editors who might not know everything about encoding or advanced editing techniques and instead of looking stuff up, they start moving to the org for help. The problem is...they have questions like HOW DO U UPLOAD and WHERE IS THE FORUMS?

Basically...i think we need to have more visiblity when it comes to things like the forums and the uploading, etc. Youtube has a BIG ASS YELLOW BUTTON for subbing people and im pretty sure the org could make the link to the forums more noticeable...or at least have it say "FORUMS HERE" or something . Maybe a link to uploading/uploading guides on the front page would be good as well.

Just putting out ideas.

I'm also not asking for us to cater to youtube. However, do keep in mind that youtube is a huge website with a lot of success and taking notes from a big, successful website is not always a bad idea.
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Kitsuner » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:38 am

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SOLUTION: Make Kitsuner the literal poster boy of the Org.
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Bauzi » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:52 am

My problem with the org's design right now is that everything is on one page. I would like to see a homepage with tabs or something.

One tab that gives you everything you need to watch and comment videos (default page?)
One tab that gives you full control over your videos and statistics
One tab that lets you get involved in the community with the forum, the chat etc.
One tab that gives you all you need to evolve yourself with guides and helping tutorials

I would welcome such a system.

@OtakuGray:
Yeah the YT is big things for important stuff. You just can't find the search bar or the subscribe button (subscribes are just like alerts, right?).

Also I would like to see a regular news letter. I know that everybody is allowed to submit content for the newsletter, but I think that we should really get off our asses and make one. Featuring hot a-m-v.org site news, interessting videos and forum threads and maybe featuring podcast's like Ngsilver's show.
You can find me on YT under "Bauzi514". Subscribe to never miss my AMV releases. :amv:

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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by OtakuGray » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:47 am

Bauzi wrote:I know that everybody is allowed to submit content for the newsletter
LOL Wait...Theres a newsletter? :rofl:

Bauzi wrote: @OtakuGray:
Yeah the YT is big things for important stuff. You just can't find the search bar or the subscribe button (subscribes are just like alerts, right?).
and the sub button is at the top of every channel/video and same with the search bar :shock: yeah subs are like alerts. You get videos on the front page and it shows what they made recently. It can get a little unorganized at times...and you HAVE to watch the videos to make them go off the FP. Its not fool-proof but it is a good way of showing people when videos are made at times.
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Bauzi » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:03 am

As far as I can guess: There still is a newsletter, but nobody submits content for it.

I received the last org newsletter years ago. It was quite nice.
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by Castor Troy » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:18 pm

OtakuGray wrote:
LOL Wait...Theres a newsletter? :rofl:
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Re: The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

Post by JaddziaDax » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:19 pm

it's not that no one is submitting to it, it's that no one is organizing it.. at least that's the way it seems to me.

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