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Re: Problem?

Post by Enigma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:56 pm

Mastamind wrote:
Soup wrote: And try using theses settings for you're project.
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Frankly, I'm in a position where I can't change the AR of the source. And the pixel aspect ratio is at 0.9091, but is it OK if I make my final compression with those settings? Or should I resize it after I export from Vegas?
I normally use those settings when it comes to 4:3 anime and always worked for me without any frame blending,So that's why i recommended them :P

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Re: Problem?

Post by Kariudo » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:26 pm

It's dangerous to recommend something if you don't know exactly what it means/does |:

720 x 480 is 0.9 PAR not 1.0 (640 x 480 is 1.0)
23.976 fps is for IVTC'd footage, but if you just used TFM or Telecide without using TDecimate or Decimate then you'd be at 29.97 (or whatever 30000/1001 is)

Like I said before, I don't use Vegas...but the "adjust source media to better match project or render settings" thing worries me. To me, that sounds like vegas will resize/adjust PAR/adjust framerate to match your project settings. Letting Vegas (or any editing program really,) handle those things is likely to turn out poorly

the short answer: just match your project settings to your source properties, and use the same settings for rendering
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Re: Problem?

Post by Scintilla » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:57 pm

Kariudo wrote:It's dangerous to recommend something if you don't know exactly what it means/does |:

720 x 480 is 0.9 PAR not 1.0 (640 x 480 is 1.0)
What's wrong with editing it at square pixels, as long as you remember to resize any still images you import and resize the video later for distro (or not even then, if you're encoding to MPEG-2 or -4)? I edit at 720x480 square pixels all the time.
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Re: Problem?

Post by Kariudo » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:03 pm

Scintilla wrote: What's wrong with editing it at square pixels...
It's wrong because square is the shape of evil.
Scintilla wrote:...as long as you remember to resize any still images you import and resize the video later for distro (or not even then, if you're encoding to MPEG-2 or -4)?
My guess is that most people don't realize this. Telling people to set up their projects as 720x480 square pixels and then to resize or set PAR flags just introduces another step for people to mess up.

To be honest, I didn't figure (or perhaps I forgot,) you could edit 720x480 @ PAR 1 (without screwing things up) until you brought this up
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Re: Problem?

Post by Mastamind » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:39 pm

Ok, thanks all- so, bottom line here, I'm good if I keep my final distribution setting the same as I already have it, or would I need to resize along the way? I'm just a little unclear on whether a PAR of .9 is should be used for distribution.
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Re: Problem?

Post by Qyot27 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:01 am

Mastamind wrote:Ok, thanks all- so, bottom line here, I'm good if I keep my final distribution setting the same as I already have it, or would I need to resize along the way? I'm just a little unclear on whether a PAR of .9 is should be used for distribution.
If you want to use a container (like MP4 or MKV) that supports aspect flagging, then sure. You can tell the container to use 4:3 as its AR and be done with it (assuming it's supposed to be 4:3). If you're authoring for DVD, this is actually mandatory.
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Re: Problem?

Post by Mastamind » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:39 am

Qyot27 wrote:If you want to use a container (like MP4 or MKV) that supports aspect flagging, then sure. You can tell the container to use 4:3 as its AR and be done with it (assuming it's supposed to be 4:3). If you're authoring for DVD, this is actually mandatory.
Allright - this thing should be up within two weeks, maybe three. Thanks again.
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