Copy-Protection DVDs??

[alternatefutures]

iserlohn: DVD-Audio is not the same as a DVD, it just uses the same disc, but the encoding is totally different. This is why you need a specific DVD-Audio player to read it, not because of some copy-portection scheme. Besides, SACD is better ^^

And here's the rule. If you can view it, you can copy it. This is why the most effective copy protection schemes actually prevent legimate viewing and have consumers ticked off.

[iserlohn]

Alternate: I was aware of that. There's not a DVD-A ripper out yet either that I'm aware of...ah well, like DTS or DD 5.1 is SUCH a loss =)

[Chao]

They keep saying that they are working on unbreakable copy protection but it is an impossible idea. If something can be read it can be copied. DVDs seemed uncopyable before DeCSS but now ripping a DVD is easy. Currently they are working on technologies that interfere with output such as Macrovision but these often have unwanted side effects (such as a new CD copy protection that renders the disc unreadable in PCs and actually damaged the firmware of some Mac cd drives). The only way is to include this "unbreakable" protection into the format and not try and tag it on afterwards. But even then people will create bypass chips and custom hardware to get round it.

[The Wired Knight]

Not to mention there are things like the Sima color correcter that are designed to not read nor recognize these inhibitors and thus serve as a medium to bypass the technology. I've always felt that the reason companies say that they have an unbreakable one in the works is to try and scare potential rippers from working on things to beat it or even try because it is "unbreakable." A ridiculous and idealistic notion but I believe that is what the companies are thinking.

[Vlad G Pohnert]

Actually, the industry has a VERY powerful copy protection tool available to them that defers copying more than anything else! They just got to start using it even more... What is this weapon?

Simple.... Low prices for DVDs!

Hec, make them cheap enough and it still makes the money since more will buy them and less will feel it's worth going through the hassle of copying... Sure there are those who still will, but like anything, you can't eliminate it completely.....

Vlad

[Sub0]

Robotech DVDs don't even have the simplest kind of copyright on them, you can just rip them straight from dvd! wonder why that is... I mean ADVs other stuff isn't like that and, as an americanized anime, Robotech should be MORE copyrighted... maybe cuz it's a digital reconvention (er whatever) any other ideas or dvds like it?

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[Rozard]

Actually, the industry has a VERY powerful copy protection tool available to them that defers copying more than anything else! They just got to start using it even more... What is this weapon?

Simple.... Low prices for DVDs!

Hec, make them cheap enough and it still makes the money since more will buy them and less will feel it's worth going through the hassle of copying... Sure there are those who still will, but like anything, you can't eliminate it completely.....

Vlad

I doubt companies would do that. After all, everything is run by the dollar. They're going to try and make as much money off DVDs and CDs as they can. Besides, I think more money is lost in theaters, where people bring in camcorders and tape new movies. That way people can download a movie that's still out in theaters and not have to pay to go see it. Granted, the quality is the equivalent of running an aluminum foil cone in the groove of an LP, but the general publc doesn't care. They just want to be able to see the movie and hear the audio. They're not movie connoisseurs, and they're certainly not using to as source footage for anything. How many of you have a large collection of movies on VHS that you taped off the TV? Same idea pretty much.

[Vlad G Pohnert]

I doubt companies would do that. After all, everything is run by the dollar. They're going to try and make as much money off DVDs and CDs as they can. Besides, I think more money is lost in theaters, where people bring in camcorders and tape new movies. That way people can download a movie that's still out in theaters and not have to pay to go see it. Granted, the quality is the equivalent of running an aluminum foil cone in the groove of an LP, but the general publc doesn't care. They just want to be able to see the movie and hear the audio. They're not movie connoisseurs, and they're certainly not using to as source footage for anything. How many of you have a large collection of movies on VHS that you taped off the TV? Same idea pretty much.

Yes, but your thinking only of the true die hard fans and people like us. The avarage person can't be bothered with tapign things and keeping them. They would rather just but the box set or wait till it comes out. True, greed is the problem here by the companies, but then again if TV series box DVD box sets keep comming out like some are for under $60 - $ 70, then peopel will but them....

Vlad

[LongShot]

Copy protection sucks. But there is a way to get around it. What they do is they create a corupted file in the CD that when you try to Copy or Rip, it messes up the entire thing.
But there is a way to get around that. All you do is rip it bit by bit. It's and only way and takes a LONG time to rip (about 2 days I think). You have to be their for every part of the process because you need to skip that file when it appears.
Sucks doesn't it