The Org Redesign - What's wrong with the org?

[Qyot27]

Why not take it a step further and have true forum integration with the thread's posts visible on the video profile page? Members could also make new posts to the forum thread directly from the video's profile page. The first post of the thread would have the vidid tag and perhaps the editor's comments so those finding the thread via the forum will have the context.

That would definitely work well too. Going back to a tabbed interface idea, the video info page could have a Feedback tab which then shows the forum posting options. That way the forum integration wouldn't stretch the page way out of shape.

...have an option in the user's profile (which would be opt-in, rather than opt-out, to avoid forum flooding) to automatically generate an announcement thread...

Instead of opt-in/out to prevent flooding, perhaps the automatic threads could have their own subforum within the announcements forum like the Video Software Help Archive is a subforum of the General Video forum. This way every video can have a thread regardless of availability and threads do not need an auto-lock to prevent comments on old videos pushing down threads in the amv announcements forum. Feedback on old videos is expected. If people want to see the most recently commented videos they could pop-up into that subforum and start reading/participating.

Having integration like this also helps the moderators since the moderation tools already exist and don't need to be created, just extended. (i.e. if a video gets deleted the thread gets locked or moved to a hidden forum. If the thread gets locked the ability to comment on the video profile page disappears, etc.)

I'd guess that in this scenario, the regular Announcements forum would be for those editors that prefer to announce videos themselves with availability, even if there's a auto-generated duplicate in the subforum?

Or would it be handled like - user has ability to move thread from auto-announcement forum to main announcements, and when enough time elapses, it gets moved back?

[godix]

Instead of opt-in/out to prevent flooding, perhaps the automatic threads could have their own subforum within the announcements forum like the Video Software Help Archive is a subforum of the General Video forum. This way every video can have a thread regardless of availability and threads do not need an auto-lock to prevent comments on old videos pushing down threads in the amv announcements forum. Feedback on old videos is expected. If people want to see the most recently commented videos they could pop-up into that subforum and start reading/participating.

Having integration like this also helps the moderators since the moderation tools already exist and don't need to be created, just extended. (i.e. if a video gets deleted the thread gets locked or moved to a hidden forum. If the thread gets locked the ability to comment on the video profile page disappears, etc.)

I like the idea of a secondary forum, but not as you describe. If threads started in it, the entire forum would quickly be ignored and forgotten and few would ever actually view the threads. I prefer an opt in choice to automatically create threads in the regular announcement forum (for text, it'd just copy whatever was entered into the vid info). The fact it's opt-in will probably prevent flooding, I imagine most editors who upload probably don't look at the options available and would just go with default opt-out. Once the thread hits the automatic lock time, have it be moved to a subforum instead and remains unlocked. That way it can still get the attention of an announcement thread yet still could be commented on even years later.

[Zarxrax]

Why go with this clunky forum thread stuff as opposed to a true comment system? I dont see what advantage it offers.

[Corran]

I like the idea of a secondary forum, but not as you describe. If threads started in it, the entire forum would quickly be ignored and forgotten and few would ever actually view the threads.

This was actually one of the reasons I described it the way I did. My suggestion was that we ought to maintain the current amv announcement forum and a new subforum dedicated to all video comments simultaneously. Duplicate threads? Perhaps, but making it a sub-forum rather than something separate is to intentionally reduce it's visibility. I believe that most posts to the threads would primarily come from the video profile pages rather than the forum and that if users can post from the video profiles without much difficulty that there will be a lot of activity. More so than there is now with quick comments since the general user base will see discussions and want to participate in them. The ability to view the threads on the forum would just be there for those that are curious about what is currently being discussed by the org as a whole or to search through the comments by keywords, number of replies, etc. Users could still make announcement threads as they do now and link to the sub-forum topic if they like.

I prefer an opt in choice to automatically create threads in the regular announcement forum (for text, it'd just copy whatever was entered into the vid info). The fact it's opt-in will probably prevent flooding, I imagine most editors who upload probably don't look at the options available and would just go with default opt-out.

I'm not sure about this. Most people post their videos I presume for two reasons: To make their videos available to others, and to get feedback. If we are trying to encourage more participation then it would not make sense to bury an announcement-related feature so user's overlook it and I would imagine that most with at least a little bit of self-esteem and eagerness to participate will enable it.
While I doubt this site will ever have the traffic it once had, take this for consideration. At the site's peek 4273 videos were entered in the catalog in one month. If just one third of those people opted to enable feedback, about 47 threads would be created per day. Even if the site traffic were a third of that, about 15 threads would be created per day meaning that a new thread may disappear from the first page of threads within 24 hours or less when you consider people bringing second page threads back to the top with new replies. Would it be fine for current org activity levels? Maybe. I just don't think it scales well.

Why go with this clunky forum thread stuff as opposed to a true comment system? I dont see what advantage it offers.

Some forum software (I don't think phpbb does...) provides integration APIs and data objects to make embedding forum posts into other areas of your site ridiculously easy. You can style things how you want and have the advantages of a tried and true back end. Moderators won't need new tools built for them, they can just moderate comments through the forum interface they are already used to. You don't have to worry about handling special characters as much. You don't have to perform much testing for bugs. Users can use existing bbcode instead of asking you to implement hyperlink, formatting, and image handling.

Are these good enough reasons? I'm not 100% convinced myself. I'm just suggesting that you don't reinvent the wheel if something that fits your needs and license already exists. Make sure you are unable to find a good, existing piece of software that fits your needs before trying to make something from scratch.

[OtakuGray]

Comments with moderation sounds like a good idea to me...

[LittleAtari]

Comments with moderation sounds like a good idea to me...

Comments with a 'flag' button sounds more feasible

[Kaream]

The main problems have already been addressed in the beginning of the topic.
Just waiting to hear some feedback from all the Admins

[OtakuGray]

Something annoying ive noticed is not being able to kick members out of a studio if they just randomly join. Pretty much anyone can say their video or they themselves are in pretty much any studio or something. Thats not good and it makes the idea of a studio pretty much useless in the first place. We should allow moderation over studio titles being slapped onto things.

I know a lot of fans/stalkers have added themselves to the Re-evo list...but no one had even heard of them....it would be nice if strawberrykiss could just remove them.

[Kaream]

Also users should be able to delete videos. It would save alot of space and get rid of useless videos.

[godix]

Also users should be able to delete videos. It would save alot of space and get rid of useless videos.

Especially if you gave us the power to delete other people's videos.