End of Eva idea...

longview606 · Post by **longview606** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 11:13 pm

After watching the series over again I had a strange idea. I was thinking that episodes 25 and 26 took place during End of Eva. Most of it took place while Shinji was deciding the fate of man kind inside that column thing. Some parts took place earlier in the movie like when Asuka was curled up in unit two at the bottom of the lake. Maybe it is just me but this is what I think happened in the last two episodes and End of Eva.

baggies · Post by **baggies** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 11:19 pm

TONS of people share that view. but most find it faulty as end of eva wasn't even supposed to be made. but during the last two episodes i think it was implied that end of eva was going on and the creator just didnt feel like screwing up an extremely deep and momentous...moment, with pretty mechs hitting each other with retarded swords that make SWISH and CLANG noises. there's the occasional beep too

where the hell is uncle milo? he's the one to talk to about this stuff. allbeit trivial and related to a crappy series, ahem...what?
GET OFF ME

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 10:54 am

if I remember correctly, EoE took place 2 weeks before the final 2 episodes.

moooooo · Post by **moooooo** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 3:26 pm

i thought that for a long time, but now I think differently. I feel like a version of end of eva is happening during episode 25-26, but it is kinda an alternate universe thing. Similiar events are taking place, but the outcomes are different.
In the series, Shinji gives into instrumentality. In the movie, he rejects it. If you look at it that way, the movie and the series can't be part of the same reality. I know I didn't word it right, sorry

check out the evaotaku site, he has a lot of good ideas on the subject.

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 5:12 pm

I didn't mean for it to be a part of the series, reguardless of when it took place. It was the END of Eva.. not a prelude to episode 25 and 26.

ShipPagan · Post by **ShipPagan** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:56 am

End of Evangelion is a "theatrical remake" of episodes 25 and 26.

"Episode 25: Do you Love me?" Became "Episode 25: Air" and "Episode 26: Take Care Of Yourself" Became "Episode 26 - One more Final: I Need You"

You could take it that the original episodes 25 and 26 were turned into episode 26 I Need You, and that 25 Air was to show what cause the 3rd Impact. Fans didn't like the ending of the seires. Hideaki Anno didn't like the fans for not liking the ending of the seires. He made EoE (mood) angry. So we weren't much better off, just found out how 3rd Impact occured is all. Personally I understood the series finals just fine, I didn't see the problem people had.

ShipPagan · Post by **ShipPagan** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:59 am

As said above, Shinji gave into Instrumentality in the series, but in the movie he didn't. Hideaki Anno made EoE different on purpose, because he was pissed off.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 12:04 pm

both endings sucked, that is all that realy matters.

UncleMilo · Post by **UncleMilo** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:41 am

I am not going to talk much here, becuase I dislike talking about EVA on this board for many reasons.

However... End of EVA does still fit into the continuity of Evangelion.

If you think that END starts where EP 24 leaves off... and then you sort of have to cut and paste eps 25 and 26 from the TV series with the events in the movie.

Eps 25 and 26 of the TV series are not chronological... it jumps back and forth, it explores the minds of the characters... but EPS 25 and 26 mostly happen after everyone is reduced to LCL fluid and become part of the big ol' mass mind.

Still... the final message is the message of the TV series. If you must include END OF EVA into the TV series, then know that the real message of the show is still the last part of the TV series.

I mostly wish END OF EVA was never made... but the writer knew his whole story and so END OF EVA and the TV series will mesh... but you have to understand the story to work it all out...

Most of END OF EVA is just the surface story concluded for those who just have to have everything spelled out for them.

-Uncle Milo

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:47 am

In the movie everyone was LCLed and broken out of the mass mind, but sicne they couldn't return to their bodies they were kind of dead, and in the series shinji decided to go along with the whole false reality thing. Either way the endings sucked. And the only message is that this is what you get when you trust the fate of mankind to a psychologicaly damaged boy.