Trigun Ponderings *huge spoilers*

[MistyCaldwell]

Up until now (I was cheating on the org and reading another forum) I had always thought that when Knives and Vash called themselves 'Plants' they were referring to the light power sources that the humans had harnessed and put into the giant light bulb looking things. That was one reason for their aging, they grew into adults really fast then stopped aging. They existed outside of time and didn't age more than what it took to grow fully. We even get a glimpse of one of the creatures that Vash and Knives are when the lost ship's plant is about to blow and Vash communicates and starts to heal one.

I keep seeing people thinking Vash and Knives are plants of the tree and flower variety. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

And while you Trigun people are here, has anyone read any Trigun Maximum? Does it differ plot wise, from the anime? I know it hasn't ended yet and wondered if maybe we could look forward to a more....filling...ending. I was satisfied, and I liked the gun battle (no dramatic speaches and talking, loved that) but I would have liked a little more clues.

[madmag9999]

hmmmmmmmm ill have to rewatch trigun i always knew they were alieans but i never knew they were plants

[Warpwind]

Up until now (I was cheating on the org and reading another forum) I had always thought that when Knives and Vash called themselves 'Plants' they were referring to the light power sources that the humans had harnessed and put into the giant light bulb looking things. That was one reason for their aging, they grew into adults really fast then stopped aging. They existed outside of time and didn't age more than what it took to grow fully. We even get a glimpse of one of the creatures that Vash and Knives are when the lost ship's plant is about to blow and Vash communicates and starts to heal one.

I keep seeing people thinking Vash and Knives are plants of the tree and flower variety. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

I agree with your first paragraph there. I always believed that Vash, Knives and the light blub things were the same species just that somehow (it was never explained) Vash and Knives were "hatched" from the big light blub things. If the species known in the anime as "Plants" is actually related to things of the green and growing sort is something I don't know. I suspect it is so... I mean look at the nature of Vash's injuries he heals more like a tree than anything else and Knives did not send the ships carrying plants to crash. I just consider Vash and Knives as a highly sentient alien plant species.

But this is all just my own mad ramblings I have nothing to back it up with.

[MAS PRODUCTIONS]

The term plants refers to the species that exist out of time. As far as Maximum goes, I have only read a little of it, there aren't too many differences from the anime or atleast not differences that are noticable. They keep the general plot of it from what I can tell. They change a few things such as conversations, but I attribute that to it being a manga

[omniinuyasha85]

knives and vash are same as the beings in the lightbulbs. i don't agree with the whole statement of how they heal like plants, i mean knives got hit by an angel arm and he's fine episode 26. thry are plants, yes, but they are abt as close to humans as they can but not actually being people.

as for trigun maximum, plotwise, the stories looks similar. heard they'll be out in english this october. i read that in an anime mag in a bookstore, i could check back if anyone wants to. but there are key differences, knives is a more complicated character(more psychotic if you may), he has more badass powers, wolfwood is alive, and i think there are more gung ho guns. i never read it, but i see images here and there in trigun maximum shrines on the net.

[Amaranth]

The light bulbs are called plants because they're like power plants in that they provide power. But they also can enrich the soil to make it able to grow things and to support human life.

As far as I know the plants are beings created by humans to serve this purpose, as well as to propel the spaceships accross space. Vash and Knives are both plants. Remember the episode in the floating ship where Vash tried to heal the plant? You saw a figure inside the bulb. Vash and Knives are the same as her, just male and outside the bulb.

And in order to heal himself from Vash's angel arm, Knives had to recuperate inside a bulb for 30 years. That's why he never showed up until the end and used Legato to carry out all his plans.

I don't think they have any or very little connection to trees and flowers.

[UncleMilo]

Who thinks they are plants? (As in vegetation kind of plants)

It is very clearly pointed out that they are part of the design of the powerplants in the Trigun Universe. We see a creature in one of the Power Plants that Vash refers to as sister.

They don't explain the design of the power plants... but clearly Vash and Knives are of that species.

-Uncle Milo

[kthulhu]

yeah, I figured they were related. One could perhaps say they are anomalies, though.

[MistyCaldwell]

I actually didn't see anything that suggested they were vegetation type plants myself. I was trying to find info on Trigun Maximum and came across forums where people were telling others Vash was a plant. They were saying he was self healing and was a 'seed' on the ship.

To me, seeds was more a metaphor for the light beings putting Vash and Knives onto the ship as human babies (who knows if intentional) and not as in the veggie variety.

All biological creatures are self healing to a point anyway. Judging from Vash's body and the fact that Knives lived through the angel gun attack but needed to heal, it was clear they were not humans.

Knives tells Vash that the light from the gun is more like the 'real' him anyway.

I think the confusion is they called them Plants in Japanese. That doesn't really meld with our version of the word, as they were still speaking Japanese after all.

[Shun]

knives and vash are same as the beings in the lightbulbs. i don't agree with the whole statement of how they heal like plants, i mean knives got hit by an angel arm and he's fine episode 26. thry are plants, yes, but they are abt as close to humans as they can but not actually being people.

as for trigun maximum, plotwise, the stories looks similar. heard they'll be out in english this october. i read that in an anime mag in a bookstore, i could check back if anyone wants to. but there are key differences, knives is a more complicated character(more psychotic if you may), he has more badass powers, wolfwood is alive, and i think there are more gung ho guns. i never read it, but i see images here and there in trigun maximum shrines on the net.

I disagree.

They are VERY far from humans. You just dont see it as much in Vash as you do knives because he has chose to live as one.

And i havnt read trigun maximum, but i REALLY want to, yes i have also seen scans from it. Some things that are differnt are indeed that wolfwood dosent die (This was included in the series when the series isnt even done being published, a reason why anime should be made AFTER). Also knives uses a form of actual knives as weapons and can turn his arm and almost his whole body into an "angel blade" and various other instruments. Other then that there snt much i can say.