Why are the short series' so disliked?

Jonathan02us · Post by **Jonathan02us** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:35 am

Trident wrote:
Jonathan02us wrote:Directors commentaries, as if i care about wat they have to say. I dont mind listening to their ideas, but give us more episodes per dvd and we will be happy...
Don't quote me on this, but I've heard that there have been studies done that people only watch the extra features on DVDs a whopping once. Director's comments are interesting, but... well... if we can't tell what you're trying to say/do by the work itself, then the director really ought to rethink what he or she is doing. FLCL again is a good example--half the fun of the series is just sitting there, trying to figure out what it's about. Having an explanation handed to you on a silver platter (or a DVD) ruins that aspect.

I agree ... i dont want people explaining me things when i ddnt ask for it, It does kill the story and it would defeat the whole purpose of watching the series. But some people like the directorys opinion, enough people to where the director puts his opinion on the dvd, but i will ask for their opinion when i want it and i wont listen to it when i dont want. I guess that its really up to the person and i respect that. Its all good in the hood, and thats my two cents on that ...

ryuu_hime13 · Post by **ryuu_hime13** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:28 am

I can't say I've ever watched a director commentary in my life.

angelx03 · Post by **angelx03** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:43 am

The director's commentaries in FLCL were mostly about his interest and how he almost envys people who are left-handed and able to take on spicy foods.

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:27 pm

You know... sometimes it helps to have a clarification on what the story is doing and why. My short stories required a 'primer' of sorts, otherwise you'd be lost.

Trident · Post by **Trident** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:16 pm

Is that necessary? I mean, things should require a basic common knowledge--it's one thing to assume that the average reader has a basic grasp on, say, elementary anatomy. But if your only readers are those with doctorates, or if you have to spend as much time explaining your story as it takes for the reader to read it, then there's a problem. Unless, of course, you're going for something in the style of FLCL...

Jonathan02us · Post by **Jonathan02us** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:22 am

Trident wrote:Is that necessary? I mean, things should require a basic common knowledge--it's one thing to assume that the average reader has a basic grasp on, say, elementary anatomy. But if your only readers are those with doctorates, or if you have to spend as much time explaining your story as it takes for the reader to read it, then there's a problem. Unless, of course, you're going for something in the style of FLCL...

I have to agree that if the author want to have a certain audience; like teens, they will need to write in a certain style that would help those audiences understand so that an explination wont be really needed. But it is also fun to have some anime which is a bit more difficult to understand because, thinking about a certain situation about an anime series can be pretty mind stimulating. But generally, an anime creator has to understand their audience in order for them to become a successful writer, etc.

Trident · Post by **Trident** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:41 pm

The anime creator/author should know his or her audience, yes. But there's a school of thought in literature analysis in which one of the concepts is known as the death of the author--basically, if we have to understand the author's life to understand his or her works, then there are problems inherent in the texts. Knowledge of the author can enhance the knowledge of the texts, yes. But it shouldn't be necessary to know the author. Thomas Pynchon, for example, refuses to give out interviews because he doesn't want knowledge of his life to taint his texts. Unless your goal is to be unclear and force your audience to contemplate (as in the case of Pynchon in literature and FLCL in anime), you shouldn't have to have a primer for people to understand what you're saying....

Don't mind me. We're studying critical theory in my English capstone class. I'm an English major--I think too much about this sort of thing.

Jonathan02us · Post by **Jonathan02us** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:02 pm

Trident wrote:The anime creator/author should know his or her audience, yes. But there's a school of thought in literature analysis in which one of the concepts is known as the death of the author--basically, if we have to understand the author's life to understand his or her works, then there are problems inherent in the texts. Knowledge of the author can enhance the knowledge of the texts, yes. But it shouldn't be necessary to know the author. Thomas Pynchon, for example, refuses to give out interviews because he doesn't want knowledge of his life to taint his texts. Unless your goal is to be unclear and force your audience to contemplate (as in the case of Pynchon in literature and FLCL in anime), you shouldn't have to have a primer for people to understand what you're saying....

Don't mind me. We're studying critical theory in my English capstone class. I'm an English major--I think too much about this sort of thing.

Fairly intersting thought, yeah it is sometimes nice to kno the authors life story because some of their creations are a bit tainted with their life and wat they have been through. I also understand that some authors dont want to reveal themselve because of their own personal reasons, and i respect that because i wouldnt want someone peeking into my life if i dont want them to. But some stories would be nice to have a bit more information about things, but other stories are nice to have a little mystery. Me personally, i like all sorts of animes that have a bit of mystery to it so that i can think about the situation and solve it myself; i also like those animes that are upfront because sometimes i just am to lazy to figure things out, i mean look at my anime collection:

-Love Hina (Upfront/indirect)
-Neon Genesis Evagelion(Indirect)
-Cowboy Bebop(Upfront/indirect)

I mean all these animes have a sort of upfront approach where i dont have to think of it to much, but i also have those that need a more indepth critical thinking(indirect). I like to think every once in a while, it keeps me busy.

I might not be an english major, but i sure like to thing alot. Im actually an accounting major, all i have to do is read the number and not thinking too much, so thats y i like anime, it mind stimulating ...

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:57 pm

The goal of the author is not to pandy to the masses (I hope not, actually) but to tell a story. whether anyone understands what it is that he's trying to say is entirely up to the masses, and if he chooses to tell you whatever it is that's going on behind the scenes is entirely up to him.

I'm done.

Jonathan02us · Post by **Jonathan02us** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:58 pm

Nestorath69 wrote:The goal of the author is not to pandy to the masses (I hope not, actually) but to tell a story. whether anyone understands what it is that he's trying to say is entirely up to the masses, and if he chooses to tell you whatever it is that's going on behind the scenes is entirely up to him.

I'm done.

Agreed