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Post by Jonathan02us » Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:07 am

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Onideus_Mad_Hatter wrote: All your guys stereotypes aside, it all really depends on the man and whose desire to kill is greater. `, )
i agree with that, except for the last part ... your desire to kill can be tremendous, but if you fuck up and get turned into a leaky peice of meat or get turned into a pin cushion that desire to kiss isn't going to get you anywhere. Like i said it all depends on the circuimstances, who's more aware of their surroundings and just who's better.

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Yup wat he said, the desire aint gonna do nothing if u loose your consentration and purpose of the fight. You will be screwed once you mess up.
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Post by samurairyu » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:30 am

Propyro wrote:
samurairyu wrote: Swords are meant to be fast and deadly. If someone wants to overpower their enemy with raw strength(like an oaf) then hammers and maces would be more of their thing.
yes, most swords were made for that purpose. With the exception of oversized claymores. But the swords i'm thinking of were just really heavy slabs of metal with an edge and shaped like the orc swords. Their purpose was to intimidate and deliver really heavy blows.
samurairyu wrote: Axes are something of a mix being both fast and heavy on a relatively small surface.

The Rapier is the fastest, hence best, thrusting sword and is also edged for some slashing.
The rapier requires some the highest level of skill to use it properly. I'll give you that ... but i still don't like rapiers ... if somone who's good uses a weapon with a bit of weight to it your fucked, unles yoru a lot better then they are. But rapiers were ment for almost nothing but thrusting. The only part i know of that you can slash with at all is the tip.
samurairyu wrote: The fastest/best slashing sword is obviously the Katana.

Overall, I would say the katana is the best. Most sword techniques require slashing and although you can't do a "wrap" with a one-edged sword, the ability to slice through significant amounts of non-metal armour as well as flesh and bone is quite useful. Think of it this way: in the middle ages in Europe your shield would be mostly wood so that when your opponent strikes their sword gets stuck. The Katana would cleave right through the shield and the arm carrying it. :roll:
i agree. However metal sheilds would probalby give you a bit more truoble. by the way, define a "wrap".
samurairyu wrote: Then lick their Blood off your blade and drink it from their corpse :twisted:

MmmmmmmMmmmmmm Gooood! :twisted:
err, whatever works for you.

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A wrap is a technique used with a double-edged sword. It is the main reason to have a sword with two edges as it is the most common use for the other edge.

Get in rather close then...
To execute a wrap: Begin a simple Flick(as in the most standard horizontal strike made by an almost punching gesture just with your hand turned outward. comes from the German word Flicken as in to strike), then as you are about halfway through it quickly pull your body in the opposite direction of your opponent and swing the blade so that instead of facing outward it is now inward. If executed correctly you will strike your opponent on the back of the head(or any other part of their body as you desire, we used to do it on the asses of nubes back in the S.C.A.).

This technique is primarily used when your opponent had a shield and you either didn't want to get your sword caught in it or you saw that they weren't able to see you clearly(as in they just raised their shield and their view was blocked) and were expecting you to hit their shield.

....difficult to describe with words...

If they have a metal shield and you have a katana then the fight is over. Your speed is far too much for them to handle. A solid metal shield will usually weigh between 20 and 30 pounds depending on the size. It is too slow to block a good hit and all you need to do is to get them to try to block hits. After a good 5 minutes of constantly bringing that shield up and down their arm will tire and their end is near. This is assuming of course that you immediatley go on the offensive as you would have to. Most people focuse on extra strength training for their sword arm and although this is a very good idea, if you are a shield person you must train your shield arm just as much if not more.


By the way...

:twisted: Guns are for pussies with small dicks and niether skill nor Honor! :twisted:

A child just old enough to pull a trigger can kill himself or even the the greatest swordsman alive. To kill with a gun is to say straight out that your opponent is the better warrior and that you are a pansy who is better at wetting yourself than using your hands or a blade. :evil:
Anyone who thinks they are baddass because they have a big gun has to re-evaluate their situation. They must realize that the only thing that makes them baddass IS the gun, without that they are pathetic.

...No offense to anyone who likes guns, I'm just a crazy weirdo with a sense of honor who has this insane notion that a person should improve themself through time and patience instead of by buying some "weapon" that has a better recoil and a larger bullet. :?
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Post by Onideus_Mad_Hatter » Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:12 pm

samurairyu wrote: By the way...

:twisted: Guns are for pussies with small dicks and niether skill nor Honor! :twisted:

A child just old enough to pull a trigger can kill himself or even the the greatest swordsman alive. To kill with a gun is to say straight out that your opponent is the better warrior and that you are a pansy who is better at wetting yourself than using your hands or a blade. :evil:
Anyone who thinks they are baddass because they have a big gun has to re-evaluate their situation. They must realize that the only thing that makes them baddass IS the gun, without that they are pathetic.
Same can be said about a sword. For example if it really struck my fancy I could probably eviscerate a person with nothing but my bare hands or completely smash their lil skull in with nothing more than a good solid punch. Guns, swords, they're merely instruments of war, they let you kill without getting your lil hands dirty. Every implement of war that has ever been created has been to decrease the amount of moral thought it takes to end the life of another. If all soliders had to kill their enemies with their bare hands, there probably wouldn't be any war.
...No offense to anyone who likes guns, I'm just a crazy weirdo with a sense of honor who has this insane notion that a person should improve themself through time and patience instead of by buying some "weapon" that has a better recoil and a larger bullet. :?
You don't know much about shooting. If you've a giant, non moving target sitting right in front of you at close range, yeah, then it's pretty much a no brainer with a gun...but then it's the same with a sword. Do you have any idea just how hard it is to hit a moving target with a gun? Or even better, a moving target not at close range? It's not like you just walk down to your local gun store, buy a 9, and then suddenly you're the worlds greatest sharpshooter. Chances are you wouldn't be able to hit the blind side of a fuckin barn and that's IF you can figure out how to turn the safety off. *rolls eyes*

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Post by samurairyu » Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:41 pm

If I remember correctly, I mentioned using martial techniques :roll:

And although one can argue that to shoot someone takes skill, as in snipers, to shoot someone at the range it takes to hit a person with a sword is childsplay. A standard blade has about a 3 foot range, added to the foot and a half that you gain with your arm(note that it is not longer because of the way one swings a blade) and you come to maybe 4.5 feet. Tell me that it is easy to miss when shooting at that range and I will show the court someone who is either incompetant or cannot switch off the safety :roll:

A sword is more honorable...

HOWEVER!!, you have brought up something that I probably should have anticipated. I am assuming that you are fighting someone with equal weaponry. Swords and other melee weapons, along with your body, are descent and honorable ways to duel. Distance weapons such as slings(David was only able to kill Goliath because of this), bows and guns are all designed to allow you to kill without proximity-hence without honor.

:twisted: eviscerating with bare hands is not as easy as it sounds.
Skin, although easily broken with tools or strikes to the right places, is more duralble than one would think. The human body is flexible, yet it is solid and thick. Layers of skin, fat, then muscle protect the bowels.
A person who likes the very impersonal style of the gun, as in when you pull the trigger you don't feel their body giving way to the destructive power of the bullet, wouldn't derive the same pleasure :twisted: of defeating your opponent utterly. And killing with a sword doesn't keep you from getting your hands dirty, in fact it is a very dirty way to kill. And your hands feel everything the blade feels. It is the same as if you killed someone with a baseball bat. You feel it.

I will repeat myself for those thick of skull: Guns are for Pussies without honor. :P

I shall also add that hitting a small moving target with a gun may have its difficulties, however with a sword you have to chase that target down. If the target is fast enough - you lose. If the target realizes you are there and is faster or more skilled than you - you lose.

People who cannot accept the simple fact that there are limitations in this world devise new ways to remove such limitations. This is both useful, as in a bridge, and unuseful, as in nuclear(bitch) weapons.

Guns and bombs are the loser way to kill.


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Post by Propyro » Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:53 pm

actualy at 4.5 feet it's pretty easy to miss. Exspecialy if you use a long arm, such as a rifle or a shot gun. It's like standing right ingront of a person holding a basebalbat, the weapon becomes usless because your too close.

But in terms of honor, melee > ranged. And yea, i thihk i know what a wrap is, i've just never heard a name being put to that manuver.

But shooting is harder then it looks. i shot both guns and bows, and there are a lot of factors that play a big part in how accurate you are. Though i agree with hatter and his analogy of your local Dick picking up a pistol and thinking they're the shit. Actualy i find pistols much harder to use then long arms.

As for swords and the like, i have no experience in using them, but would love to learn. Throwing knives are another thing that interests me. One of these days i'll stop being cheap and get a 20 dollar set to play with.

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Post by Jonathan02us » Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:12 pm

samurairyu wrote:
Propyro wrote:
samurairyu wrote: Swords are meant to be fast and deadly. If someone wants to overpower their enemy with raw strength(like an oaf) then hammers and maces would be more of their thing.
yes, most swords were made for that purpose. With the exception of oversized claymores. But the swords i'm thinking of were just really heavy slabs of metal with an edge and shaped like the orc swords. Their purpose was to intimidate and deliver really heavy blows.
samurairyu wrote: Axes are something of a mix being both fast and heavy on a relatively small surface.

The Rapier is the fastest, hence best, thrusting sword and is also edged for some slashing.
The rapier requires some the highest level of skill to use it properly. I'll give you that ... but i still don't like rapiers ... if somone who's good uses a weapon with a bit of weight to it your fucked, unles yoru a lot better then they are. But rapiers were ment for almost nothing but thrusting. The only part i know of that you can slash with at all is the tip.
samurairyu wrote: The fastest/best slashing sword is obviously the Katana.

Overall, I would say the katana is the best. Most sword techniques require slashing and although you can't do a "wrap" with a one-edged sword, the ability to slice through significant amounts of non-metal armour as well as flesh and bone is quite useful. Think of it this way: in the middle ages in Europe your shield would be mostly wood so that when your opponent strikes their sword gets stuck. The Katana would cleave right through the shield and the arm carrying it. :roll:
i agree. However metal sheilds would probalby give you a bit more truoble. by the way, define a "wrap".
samurairyu wrote: Then lick their Blood off your blade and drink it from their corpse :twisted:

MmmmmmmMmmmmmm Gooood! :twisted:
err, whatever works for you.

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A wrap is a technique used with a double-edged sword. It is the main reason to have a sword with two edges as it is the most common use for the other edge.

Get in rather close then...
To execute a wrap: Begin a simple Flick(as in the most standard horizontal strike made by an almost punching gesture just with your hand turned outward. comes from the German word Flicken as in to strike), then as you are about halfway through it quickly pull your body in the opposite direction of your opponent and swing the blade so that instead of facing outward it is now inward. If executed correctly you will strike your opponent on the back of the head(or any other part of their body as you desire, we used to do it on the asses of nubes back in the S.C.A.).

This technique is primarily used when your opponent had a shield and you either didn't want to get your sword caught in it or you saw that they weren't able to see you clearly(as in they just raised their shield and their view was blocked) and were expecting you to hit their shield.

....difficult to describe with words...

If they have a metal shield and you have a katana then the fight is over. Your speed is far too much for them to handle. A solid metal shield will usually weigh between 20 and 30 pounds depending on the size. It is too slow to block a good hit and all you need to do is to get them to try to block hits. After a good 5 minutes of constantly bringing that shield up and down their arm will tire and their end is near. This is assuming of course that you immediatley go on the offensive as you would have to. Most people focuse on extra strength training for their sword arm and although this is a very good idea, if you are a shield person you must train your shield arm just as much if not more.


By the way...

:twisted: Guns are for pussies with small dicks and niether skill nor Honor! :twisted:

A child just old enough to pull a trigger can kill himself or even the the greatest swordsman alive. To kill with a gun is to say straight out that your opponent is the better warrior and that you are a pansy who is better at wetting yourself than using your hands or a blade. :evil:
Anyone who thinks they are baddass because they have a big gun has to re-evaluate their situation. They must realize that the only thing that makes them baddass IS the gun, without that they are pathetic.

...No offense to anyone who likes guns, I'm just a crazy weirdo with a sense of honor who has this insane notion that a person should improve themself through time and patience instead of by buying some "weapon" that has a better recoil and a larger bullet. :?

Did u write that, wow, thats pretty long. And how u kno those moves, u a karate student o something. :shock:
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Post by TallonKarrde23 » Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:58 pm

samurairyu wrote: I will repeat myself for those thick of skull: Guns are for Pussies without honor. :P

I shall also add that hitting a small moving target with a gun may have its difficulties, however with a sword you have to chase that target down. If the target is fast enough - you lose. If the target realizes you are there and is faster or more skilled than you - you lose.

People who cannot accept the simple fact that there are limitations in this world devise new ways to remove such limitations. This is both useful, as in a bridge, and unuseful, as in nuclear(bitch) weapons.

Guns and bombs are the loser way to kill.


:twisted:
unless your fighting someone ELSE with a gun too....and yeah like someone said, guns are not that easy to use, ive shot a few myself and i know --; Some pistols have so much kickback you could break your arm if you arnt strong enough.... but even if you strong enough to hold the thing when firing you still get a LOT of kickback from pistols. Try shooting a Glock 26 and hitting a target a few times fast, its about impossible unless you've trained and such --; Yeah you CAN shoot everywhere but in r/l guns are pretty inacurate...unless you know how to use it, aim, and/or have a scope that is properly aligned...or have a compensator on in place of a silencer or nothing...but threading a gun is expensive --;
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Post by Jim Hawkings21122 » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:01 pm

sword licking is for pussies, try fucking one :twisted:
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Post by pyro_256 » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:19 pm

fuck honor. if i have a choice between dying an "honorable" death or fighting dirty and living, i'll fight dirty. most people, whether they admit it or not, would also make that choice.

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Post by Jonathan02us » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:08 pm

Jim Hawkings21122 wrote:sword licking is for pussies, try fucking one :twisted:
OUCH that would hurt, lol.
pyro_256 wrote:fuck honor. if i have a choice between dying an "honorable" death or fighting dirty and living, i'll fight dirty. most people, whether they admit it or not, would also make that choice.

I dont know about that, some people who are brain washed would die for honor and stuff like that(well some arent necessarity brain washed, mayb they have a stong belief in something). Ill try everything to die a honorable death but if worse come to worse then a man gots to do wat a man gots to do, u kno wat i mean. :twisted: 8)
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