Hellsing: the Anderson Priest *possible spoilers*

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Post by KillDieMurder » Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:49 pm

:shock: no wonder they lost the war ...

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lmao.
Yeah, Alucard is pretty much an army all by himself.
Nice avatar by the way.
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Post by Propyro » Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:03 pm

KillDieMurder wrote:
:shock: no wonder they lost the war ...

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lmao.
Yeah, Alucard is pretty much an army all by himself.
Nice avatar by the way.
not to mention the supporting fire from Walter ...

and thanks if you wish theres a thread about it in the "all about me forum" where you can openly praise it and gawk at the full sized image.

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Post by KillDieMurder » Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:24 pm

not to mention the supporting fire from Walter ...

and thanks if you wish theres a thread about it in the "all about me forum" where you can openly praise it and gawk at the full sized image.

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*alucard and walter appear*

Nazis: Mein laven!
*blood everywhere*

And now I have some gawking to do. All that avatar needs is a l33t 1 pixel boarder. Your not cool unless you gots a boarder 8)
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Post by Propyro » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:08 pm

KillDieMurder wrote:
not to mention the supporting fire from Walter ...

and thanks if you wish theres a thread about it in the "all about me forum" where you can openly praise it and gawk at the full sized image.

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*alucard and walter appear*

Nazis: Mein laven!
*blood everywhere*

And now I have some gawking to do. All that avatar needs is a l33t 1 pixel boarder. Your not cool unless you gots a boarder 8)
lol mein laven ... i remember that from medal of honor ... <sigh> i still don't knwo what it means ... oh well. i'm guessing it's somethig along the lines of OMG! or atleast it should be... maybe i'll feed it to bable fish.

hmm pixel boarder eh ... meh, maybe later ... mabey i'll get get fancy and make it a 3 pixel one ... ohh what abou that! meh ... we;ll see if i ever end up with the time.

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Post by KillDieMurder » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:22 pm

Whoa whoa, 3d, no need to go all fancy there. :lol:

I was refering to Wolfenstein, but MOH works too.
I think it means "AH! my shit...It's ruined!!"
either that or "My cheese!"
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Post by DriftRoots » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:06 pm

Anderson always seemed like Seifer on crusade, maybe a little older, maybe a little wiser, but still getting all the cool moves that, nevertheless, are completely unable to accomplish anything.

Anderson was, in my opinion, "cool" insofar as HE thinks he's cool and was deliberately drawn this way so that easily-hoodwinked members of the audience fall into this psychological trap. Or am I giving Hellsing's creators too much credit? Or expounding needlessly?

Nothing worse than someone who is "cool" only b/c others think he is... this is what turns flash-in-the-pan pop stars a la Vanilla Ice et al into abhorrent reminders of our own susceptibilities....
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Post by Propyro » Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:09 pm

DriftRoots wrote:
Nothing worse than someone who is "cool" only b/c others think he is... this is what turns flash-in-the-pan pop stars a la Vanilla Ice et al into abhorrent reminders of our own susceptibilities....
Bill Hicks dose a nice skit explaining why Vanilla ice was so popular ... i suggest you find it ... very good texan humor.

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Post by Vlad86 » Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:08 am

KillDieMurder wrote:
I was refering to Wolfenstein, but MOH works too.
I think it means "AH! my shit...It's ruined!!"
either that or "My cheese!"
Actually laven isn't a word, at least that I'm aware of. Maybe they're saying "Mein leben!" which translates to "My life!". Cheese in German is kase (pronounced case-uh)

Andersong is better in the manga and not just "cool cause he's there". He's a busy bastard doing all sorts of stuff(*cough* killing people who oppose Iscariot *cough* *weeze*)
*spoilers*



I can see why Millenium would want to get back at Hellsing since Alucard and Wlater fought the Nazis (there's a scene where Maxwell is talking and in the backgound is badass pic of young Walter and an imposing Alucard holding some kind of cross standing on ALOT of dead bodies)

Also if someone comes up to you speaking German just say Ich weiss nich! That might get you out or just say the obvious Ich verstehe nicht Deutsch! or say Du ist ein Ficken dummkopf! and imeadiatly start running.

Also on a side note, does anyone have the Hellsing soundtracks? If so tell me what you think. I think they're awsome (next time somone comes up to you saying that their Indie musci is so good have they listen to the Hellsing soundtrack, they ask them which is better. Hellsing) (aslo I'm a Hellsing multimedia crazed person and have all the english dvds before the boxset came out, both soundtracks(imports, the $30 kind, not the $7 knock offs) and up to vol 5 of the manga. Who knows how much I've spent on Hellsing.....heh not enough :twisted: Ineed more MORE bwaaahhahahahahahahahaahah :twisted: :twisted:
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Post by KillDieMurder » Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:26 am

Yeah I'm guessing they yelled "My life". someone told me that it sounded like cheese, but I guess they didn't know what was what.

I have the Hellsing soundtrack. I like it, some songs I could do without but it's good background music.
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Post by pyro_256 » Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:27 am

Vlad the Impaler was descended from Basarab the Great, a fourteenth-century prince who is credited with having founded the state of Wallachia, part of present-day Romania. The most famous of the early Basarabs was Vlad's grandfather, Mircea cel Batrin. As Wallachian "voivode", Mircea was prominent for his struggles against the Ottoman Empire and his attempts to exclude permanent Turkish settlement on Wallachian lands.

Mircea died in 1418 and left behind a number of illegitimate children. As there were no clear rules of succession in Wallachia, Mircea's death led to conflict between his illegitimate son Vlad (Vlad the Impaler's father) and Dan, the son of one of Mircea's brothers. This was the beginning of the Draculeti-Daneti feud that was to play a major role in the history of fifteenth-century Wallachia. In 1431, the year in which Vlad the Impaler was born, his father Vlad was stationed in as a military commander with responsibility for guarding the mountain passes from Transylvania into Wallachia from enemy incursion.

In 1431, the senior Vlad, then serving as a military commander in the Transylvanian town of Sighioara, was summoned to Nuremberg by Sigismund, the Holy Roman Emperor, to receive a unique honor. He was one of a number of princes and vassals initiated by the Emperor into the Order of the Dragon, an institution, similar to other chivalric orders of the time, modelled on the Order of St George. It was created in 1408 by Sigismund and his queen Barbara Cilli mainly for the purpose of gaining protection for the royal family; it also required its initiates to defend Christianity and to do battle against its enemies, principally the Turks. As an indication of his pride in the Order, Vlad took on the nickname "Dracul." (The Wallachian word "dracul" was derived from the Latin "draco" meaning "the dragon.") The sobriquet adopted by the younger Vlad ("Dracula" indicating "son of Dracul" or "son of the Dragon"), also had a positive connotation.

In Romanian history, Vlad is usually referred to as "epe" (pronounced Tse-pesh). This name, from the Turkish nickname "kaziklu bey" ("impaling prince"), was used by Ottoman chroniclers of the late fifteenth and early sixteenth centuries because of Vlad's fondness for impalement as a means of execution. The epithet, which echoed the fear that he instilled in his enemies, was embraced in his native country. No evidence exists to suggest that Vlad ever used it in reference to himself. By contrast, the term "Dracula" (or linguistic variations thereof) was used on a number of occasions by Vlad himself in letters and documents that still survive in Romanian museums.

We know little about Vlad's early childhood in Sighioara. His mother was apparently Cneajna, of a Moldavian princely family. He was the second of three sons; his brothers were Mircea and Radu. The family remained in Sighioara until 1436 when Vlad Dracul moved to Târgoviste to become voivode of Wallachia. Here, young Vlad was educated at court, with training that was appropriate for knighthood. But his father's political actions were to have major consequences for him and his younger brother Radu. On the death of Sigismund, Vlad Dracul ranged from pro-Turkish policies to neutrality as he considered necessary to protect the interests of Wallachia. To ensure the reliability of Dracul's support, the Sultan required that two of his sons -- Vlad and Radu -- be held in Turkey as guarantees that he would actively support Turkish interests. The two boys may have spent up to six years under this precarious arrangement. Young Vlad would have been about eleven years old at the time of the internment, while Radu would have been about seven. It appears that they were held for part of the time at the fortress of Egregoz, located in western Anatolia, and later moved to Sultan Murad's court at Adrianople. The younger brother Radu, a handsome lad who attracted the attention of the future sultan, fared better than Vlad, a factor that helps explain the bitter hatred and rivalry that developed between the brothers later. Apparently, no serious physical harm came to the boys during these years of captivity, though the psychological impact on Vlad is difficult to assess. After their subsequent release in 1448, Radu chose to remain in Turkey. But Vlad returned to Wallachia to find that his father had been assassinated and his older brother Mircea buried alive by the nobles of Târgoviste who had supported a rival claimant.

Vlad was voivode for three separate periods, totalling about seven years. Not too much is known of his first brief period of rule (in 1448). This reign was short-lived, and Vlad spent the next eight years plotting his return to power. Finally in 1456 he was successful and ruled for the next six years, the period about which most is known. After major battles against the Turks in 1462, he escaped across the mountains into Transylvania and was held as a prisoner by the Hungarian king Matthias Corvinus until the mid-1470s. His recovery of the throne for a third time in 1476 was brief, for he was killed in battle during the subsequent winter.

Though Vlad was to reign for less than seven years, his reputation throughout Europe was widespread. There are several primary sources of information, which offer a variety of representations, from Vlad as a cruel, even psychopathic tyrant to Vlad as a hero who put the needs of his country above all else. Consequently, it is a virtually impossible task to reconstruct his political and military activities with certainty.

The most influential in establishing his notoriety throughout Europe, were the German sources, dating from as early as 1463 (while Vlad was still alive). The most popular were several pamphlets that began to appear late in the fifteenth century and which were widely circulated because of the recent invention of the printing press. Indeed, some of the earliest secular texts to roll off the presses were horror stories about Vlad Dracula. Written in German and published at major centers such as Nuremburg, Bamberg, and Strassburg, these had such unsavory titles as The Frightening and Truly Extraordinary Story of a Wicked Blood-drinking Tyrant Called Prince Dracula. Researchers have discovered at least thirteen of these pamphlets dating from 1488 to 1521. The printers of the Dracula tales also included woodcut portraits of the prince and, in some cases, illustrations of his atrocities.

Other historical documents include Russian sources, notably one which presented not only the cruel side of Vlad's behavior but also his sense of justice and his determination to restore order. Turkish chronicles, not surprisingly, emphasize the horrors that Dracula inflicted on his enemies, especially during the battles of 1461-62. By contrast there are the Romanian oral narratives, still preserved in the villages near the ruins of Vlad Dracula's fortress on the Arge River. Here we find a very different Vlad: a prince who repeatedly defended his homeland from the Turks at a time when just about every other principality in the region had been subjected to Ottoman rule; and a leader who succeeded in maintaining law and order in what were indeed lawless and disorderly times.

All of these sources are biased. In the case of the German reports, the German Saxons of Transylvania were among the targets of Vlad's harsh economic measures and hence hardly to be considered objective informants. The Turkish chroniclers are hardly any more objective, downplaying Vlad's military successes and stressing their own demonstrations of bravery and cunning. Russian narratives were generally more unbiased. The Romanian narratives, by contrast, present a very different Vlad: a folk hero who endeavored to save his people not only from the invading Turks but from the treacherous boyars.

Vlad's immediate priority when he regained his throne in 1456 was to consolidate his position in Wallachia. He was determined to break the political power of the boyars (nobles) who tended to support puppet (and often weak) leaders who would protect their interests. Such a policy, Vlad realized, worked against the development of a strong nation-state. A related internal problem that faced Vlad was the continuous threat from rival claimants to the throne, all of whom were descendants of Mircea cel Batrin. Coupled with his determination to consolidate his own power was his extreme view of law and order. He did not hesitate to inflict the punishment of impalement on anyone who committed a crime, large or small. On the economic front, he was determined to break the hold that the Saxon merchants of southern Transylvania (especially Braov) had on trade. Not only were these merchants ignoring customs duties, they were also supporting rival claimants to his throne.


there, now quit arguing over who vlad the impaler was

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