Petition to ban Anime

Declan_Vee · Post by **Declan_Vee** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:03 pm

asrrin29 wrote:no, what he was saying was that if anime was illeagelized then what is to stop people from wanting to get the already illeagel stuff since now all of it would be illeagel.

Morals perhaps

HeartbreakerByZep · Post by **HeartbreakerByZep** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:03 pm

Declan_Vee wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:LOL!!!!!!

Come on, even if that thing had a trillion signatures, hell, even if George W. Bush banned anime from America, that would only make it stronger. If anime was actually illegal, it would actually become "cool" to watch it amoung high school crowds, because you're trendily bucking the system. Thus, Hong Kong bootlegs and internet fansubs would have the biggest boost in history.

And as far as the content of that pettition.... pure crap. How much you want ot bet anime's done far more good in America than bad? Maybe a few people where watching Evangelion or Lain unstead of Jack Ass and watching Eminem videos. That's a great service to humanity.
... You're joking right. Anime being "cool" first let's just stop there. ...no I'm not going to go anywhere with the obvious.

Are you saying you approve of Bootlegging anime and mass spreading fansubs? Regardless of whatever happens in America (now I'm being _very_ hypothetical here) Madman and ADV-UK are more than capable of standing on their own two feet and putting out legit releases for the english speaking market.

As for Eva and Lain actually helping anyone. You're out of your mind! Evangelion has done more harm than good (that and it sucks) and Lain... (I'd rather not talk about it)

Damn right I'm in support of mass bootlegs and fansubs, in the event that the United States bans anime. A few companies can hardly cover for the vast variety of anime out there, since many series are owned by other groups, if I where to limit myself to their category it would be hardly different than just going along with the American anime ban.

As far as Lain & Eva hurting people, that's crap. Things like that can only hurt people that are damage-prone. There's absolutely nothing harmful what-so-ever in those shows. I don't know how much "damage" these shows have actually done (doubt it is much of anything) but I'm sure it isn't greater than the people that it's helped out, if not mentally then simply by high enjoying them. Maybe your mind isn't psychadelic enough to benefit from EVA's philosophy, but I know a number of people (including myself) who have gained persepctive, thoughtfullness, and intellectuality through these shows, and these are people that never have been and likely never will be suicidal or depressed.

As far as anime being cool, no matter what your personal prefference on the matter, I'm positive that if anime was completely banned, it would definetly become cool. I myself don't want this to happen (even in the event that anime is banned), but that is the way I think it would happen.

asrrin29 · Post by **asrrin29** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:07 pm

Declan_Vee wrote:
asrrin29 wrote:no, what he was saying was that if anime was illeagelized then what is to stop people from wanting to get the already illeagel stuff since now all of it would be illeagel.
Morals perhaps

Well if america suddenly decides to ban anime, then people are already doing something illeagel if they continue to watch, so whats the difference? I might as well be doing something illeagel for free then pay to do it, I am going to jail either way if I am caught. but this is all hypothetical anyways.

DISCLAIMER: I do NOT support bootlegs when and where there are legel alternatives.

UncleMilo · Post by **UncleMilo** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:09 pm

Declan_Vee wrote:
UncleMilo wrote:(Let us not forget that the Bible condemns witches!)
You know, now that I think about it... in my 12 years of Christian education (BTW that hasn't stopped me from living an atheist life) I don't think I've ever read a passage that says anything about witches or witchcraft.

I get the feeling that it's merely reminiscent of the times when "it was the in thing" to burn them etc. Like it was "the in thing" to persecute Jews and what-not.

Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

This one little line has resulted in the deaths of thousands of women.

Don't think that line is in the past... as I mentioned, there are groups who are outraged at Kiki's Delivery Service, Harry Potter, The Worst Witch and other such titles because the main characters are shown as "good" witches.

Even if you are among those who don't like those titles in question, you hgave to admit that people who think that Kiki and Harry Potter help promote the will of Satan are just a little off.

Sure... the fear of witches and witchcraft seems silly today, but look at the reactions that some people have to Marilyn Manson (did I spell that right)... look at the West Memphis 3... one of them was into paganism and may in the community were convinced that he was the killer because he wore black and dyed his hair black.

Anyway... I have to cut it short here.

-Uncle Milo

UncleMilo · Post by **UncleMilo** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:14 pm

And from Deuteronomy

18:10
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

18:11
Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

18:12
For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:15 pm

UncleMilo wrote:This one little line has resulted in the deaths of thousands of women.

A great many men also. The idea that witches have to be female is a 20th Century invention.

asrrin29 · Post by **asrrin29** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:17 pm

the correct term eould be warlock.

Declan_Vee · Post by **Declan_Vee** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:17 pm

Not to mention "The Wizard of Oz"

Hmm, Deuteronomy and Exodus... I could make a very derogatory comment on how Christian those books are... but I don't feel like being called a nazi.

Declan_Vee · Post by **Declan_Vee** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:29 pm

asrrin29 wrote:Well if america suddenly decides to ban anime, then people are already doing something illeagel if they continue to watch, so whats the difference? I might as well be doing something illeagel for free then pay to do it, I am going to jail either way if I am caught. but this is all hypothetical anyways.

DISCLAIMER: I do NOT support bootlegs when and where there are legel alternatives.

I don't think you quite understand. Even if Anime were to be banned in America there would still be other options besides bootlegs. Namely getting (legit) anime from other countires like England, Australia or even Japan. At least this way the producers actually get some money from it. Where as with bootlegs they don't.

[Bear40: Fumo Fumo Fumo, Fumo = "Uh, look at your posts, I think maybe you owe some people an apology"]

PS. I just noticed that my last few posts may have been interpreted as Jew-bashing. This is purely coincidental and I apologise if I may have offended anyone.

asrrin29 · Post by **asrrin29** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:32 pm

if anime where banned in the US, then it doean't matter where you get it from ,it is still illeagel, hence the reason to get it for free rather than paying for it. as for supporting the artists. I am a criminal remeber (still hypothetically) what do I care? [/sarcasm]