Parents just don't understand (FLCL on CN)

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:06 pm

A quote from the article:

What we are saying is that this particular show is vulgar and dangerous and could possibly incite violence.

Obviously she thinks it is dangerous enough to incite violence?

Have you read the article?

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:16 pm

And lastly.....

Obviously we have different ideas about what this article is even about.

You seem to think it's about ratings and a mistake. If that was how SHE felt, the person everyone is talking about, then she wouldn't involve CN if it was only the cable companies fault or have said this:

We are outraged that it has been rated TV-PG to be openly viewed by kids on, of all places, The Cartoon Network.

or this:

Had this program been on a channel other than The Cartoon Network and had it been rated "R," we would not have been so alarmed.

That's "and" not "or"

Obviously there IS some issue about the network it was on. Not just the rating. Thus why people here (an anime site) have an issue with her assumptions about cartoons.

Hitori · Post by **Hitori** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:38 pm

But still...

Hitori wrote:Adult Swim.... nuff said...

Does that not ring a bell...?
FLCL wasn't put into that time slot for nothing...

And as for the PG rating...

TV Guidelines wrote:TV-PG Parental Guidance Suggested
This program contains material that parents may find unsuitable for younger children. Many parents may want to watch it with their younger children. The theme itself may call for parental guidance and/or the program contains one or more of the following: moderate violence (V), some sexual situations (S), infrequent coarse language (L), or some suggestive dialogue (D).

and it was probably supposed to be...

TV Guidelines wrote:TV-14 Parents Strongly Cautioned
This program contains some material that many parents would find unsuitable for children under 14 years of age. Parents are strongly urged to exercise greater care in monitoring this program and are cautioned against letting children under the age of 14 watch unattended. This program contains one or more of the following: intense violence (V), intense sexual situations (S), strong coarse language (L), or intensely suggestive dialogue (D).

*someone probably forgot to put the right TV rating in its' place and happen to show TV-PG

Oh well... People will have problems with everything and anything under the sun... Someone has to complain about something all the time. ..

blah...

Toecutter · Post by **Toecutter** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:51 pm

I wrote a letter to the editor about the article. I pretty much agree that there should be a TV-14 rating for FLCL (Cowboy Bebop gets a TV-14 rating on their more violent episodes, and they have way less sexually suggestive content).

As for the whole inciting violence crap, the battle she was talking about (Episode 5) was using airsoft-type weaponry.

She also complained she couldn't contact Cartoon Network! What the hell? She went to some bizarre website that Cartoon Network runs for it's PR crap. She didn't even bother to try www.adultswim.com, or www.toonami.com, which automatically redirect the user to the appropriate webpage on the Cartoon Network webserver. Automatically, she thinks it's all one big conspiracy, and tries to get the ACLU involved (an organization known for manipulating the system, and playing dirty, under-the-table litigation games in order to strengthen their political influence).

These are the same fucking pussies who are taking our gun rights away, because heaven forbid we take responsibility for our own actions, and not blame our amoral creations for the sins of our species.

This is why I hate frosted flakes (white Christians), or to be more specific, your typical Tupperware-selling, PTA board member, soccer mom. They're interested in forcing the rest of society to bend to their will through frivilous lawsuits, rather than taking the time to teach their children right from wrong.

Quote of the Day:

"Do what you do best! Take something simple, and complicate it!"
-Burt Gummer from "Tremors 3: Back to Perfection"(2001)

Shun · Post by **Shun** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:07 pm

Jace Tsunami wrote:well, you're definetly 13 or 14, you debate like one and don't read

A WARNING is not enough. Cartoon Network did nothing wrong, it's THE CABLE COMPANIES FAULT.

The cable company underrated the show, making it accessable to children even tho the parental lock should have come on and kept him from watching it.

Please do read the article, and some legitament responce sin this thread, before you reply to me.

1. Age has nothing to do with how well you debate
2. I wasnt debating anything, i was voicing my opionion.

Milk-Toast! · Post by **Milk-Toast!** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:46 pm

My paretns thought it was quite funny actually....

Evil Urchin · Post by **Evil Urchin** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:39 pm

Well, I don't happen to be Christian, but I don't think its really fair to generalize all of this on them. This sort of thing can more be blamed on anyone who is illogical/doesn't research at all/is really lazy and wants other people to do everything for them/that sort of thing. Trust me, that cross-section extends FAR beyond the realms of Christianity.

And is it just me, or did Jace quickly drop off of the radar on this thread after Misty's set of posts? Good job with that by the way.

Shun · Post by **Shun** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:55 pm

Evil Urchin wrote:Well, I don't happen to be Christian, but I don't think its really fair to generalize all of this on them. This sort of thing can more be blamed on anyone who is illogical/doesn't research at all/is really lazy and wants other people to do everything for them/that sort of thing. Trust me, that cross-section extends FAR beyond the realms of Christianity.

And is it just me, or did Jace quickly drop off of the radar on this thread after Misty's set of posts? Good job with that by the way.

Yes Misty did lay down the pwnage

Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:04 pm

I still think she's bitching about nothing ... sure i didn't read the article, and i'm too tired to attempt it now ... but fuck ...if your willing to let your tv take the job of baby sitting then too bad, thats what you get for your own neglect.

The show can incite/provoke violence? Nearly anything can incite violence you twat. If you pull the right strings on people in the right way you could get Ghandi to fly into a berzerker rage.

/|\

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:51 pm

MistyCaldwell wrote:
Jace Tsunami wrote:
The cable company underrated the show, making it accessable to children even tho the parental lock should have come on and kept him from watching it.

Her kids didn't watch anything, she and her husband did.

Read the article

I know that, it was bad choice or words is all. I should have said something more along the lines of "keep him" not kept, as if their kids had already seen it.

But in any case, all this is is a rating problem.