Regarding the rules ...

Immorrel · Post by **Immorrel** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:14 am

While I agree that having to pay $30 for a couple of episodes on an anime is silly, a little patiences sees you to the thin-paks that get you what you want for a reasonable price. Also buying anime is only a click away. There is no need to visit an actual store hoping they have what you want, and usually you'll get a better price than you would if you went to a store. So while your argument is relatively true, it's also full of holes.
You also are ignoring the fact that as many people wait for a dubbed version of a series as will go online to get a fansubbed version. They prefer to watch the anime as opposed to reading it (as my girlfriend puts it), and it's that portion of the population that truly supply the demand for anime on DVD in the US.
And finally we come full circle to Wurpess' argument. The Org would be much more likely to get axed if we supported the download of fansubs, instead of the use of legally procured DVDs. So while you're free to enjoy the fansubs (a lot of people do, myself included) we try and play nice so everybody (industry and otaku) can enjoy anime (or the money you get from selling it).

Sukunai · Post by **Sukunai** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:15 pm

Good post Immorrel

Yeah, sadly I am just old enough, I am still not accustomed to buying things online

I've done it, it's just not natural for me

I'd love to get manga. Don't actually hate the stuff.
And I would rather pay 10 bucks for a manga novel, that 3 bucks for a modern comic book. One is much larger, and more interesting, the other is just a few flimsy pages with colour.

The org might be taking the wise choice. Can't fault a choice that is safe.

And I am currently wondering just what is going to happen with retail anime in North America. I am not of the opinion that buying online is always "easy".
I like to buy online from Canadian or US locations to a point.
But anime is already pretty pricey.

Does anyone have any online retail locations they wish to promote?
No I already know of Amazon, and I have zero interest in eBay.
If I want to get a questionable dvd, I'll just download it.
I'm asking for commercial locations YOU have bought from.

Kevmaster · Post by **Kevmaster** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:33 pm

The Only fan subbs I watch is hentai, because I'm not legal age to get the dvd's yet |:

I refuse to watch any other fan subbs, I usually get an anime that seems good on DVD and watch it on DVD (mostly for quality reasons).

CerebralAssamite · Post by **CerebralAssamite** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:08 pm

I find sub's to be very similar to myspace music streams, althought you can download it (or find another way of doing it if it's not available directly on their page) and listen to it, it's just a sample of the entire album.

I'll be the first to admitt I have downloaded entire music albums.. and my fair share too, however I do purchase the album's that I believe are worth purchasing to support not only the band but he industry. The album's I believe are not worth purchasing? Well their mostly likly just shit, thus I may listen to their next album but it's more on the backburner..

Similar to Sub's, I'm currently watching Naruto and Bleach, Naruto is what I'd call a one off.. it's the shit album that's worth a listen then delete.. thats just me though.

Bleach IMO *See the IMO* is better than Naruto, I'd definetly purchase a gigantic bootlegged copy for $300 with every episode when its finished.. just to support the Asian community

I'd buy the box set to support the anime.. it's up to you though, if its not worth it don't get it, no one is forcing you, however if it is worth it, do support the company and buy the fucking product you cheap bastards.

ShatteredFlame · Post by **ShatteredFlame** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:12 pm

I would never buy an anime that I haven't watched >.>. Who would? I prefer downloading it as HQ .MKV fan-sub to see if I like it, then if I liked the anime enough to buy it, I would. I would be pissed if I spent money on an anime DVD that I haven't watched and I wound up hating it >.>. So fan-subs should be legal >={

The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:01 pm

ShatteredFlame wrote: So fan-subs should be legal >={

explain your conclusion in more than just "I want to see if I like it before I buy".

ShatteredFlame · Post by **ShatteredFlame** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:17 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:
ShatteredFlame wrote: So fan-subs should be legal >={
explain your conclusion in more than just "I want to see if I like it before I buy".

That's my conclusion! Why should I buy a $20+ DVD for 4 anime episodes that I have never watched? Like with American TV shows like Futurama, Family Guy, Lost etc., I actually watched them on TV and love it so I go out to buy the boxed set >.>. Anime is never really shown anywhere unless you illegally download it off the internet, so with anime your pretty much taking a gamble if you want to go out and buy it before you watch it :/

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:23 pm

and that's why I buy new anime based on reviews and recommendations

Kevmaster · Post by **Kevmaster** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:31 am

Kariudo wrote:and that's why I buy new anime based on reviews and recommendations

x2

and for amv's. If an AMV uses an anime I dont know it if it looks sexy, I'll buy it.

Shui · Post by **Shui** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:18 am

Kevmaster wrote: and for amv's. If an AMV uses an anime I dont know it if it looks sexy, I'll buy it.

U buy AMV's ?? Guess u refered animes ^^
it can be easily misunderstood though

I watch fansub becus of the following reasons :
1. I can't wait
2. Original Language ftw !
3. I don't have enough money to buy every anime i like

I know its not a good thing for the anime-sellers, but hey, they get their money, sooner or later