Informal Poll...give a little help here...

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Re: Informal Poll...give a little help here...

Post by Kai Stromler » Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:57 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote: 1. Do you own fansubs of unlicensed anime?
2. If so do you destroy these when liscensed version come available?
3. Do you download anime that is already liscensed?
and...
4. (Please keep brief).... Do you believe fansubs of unliscensed anime helps to promote its release in areas other that japan?
1. Yes, both digital and VHS.

2. I probably ought to, but it's too much trouble to refactor my CD catalog, and keeping tapes means I can lend stuff out to friends without risking damage to DVDs. Much of what I follow has a slim chance at best of being licensed; I was pleasantly surprised by Steam Detectives and Master Keaton, but Cooking Master Boy and Early Reins see No Chance In Hell of worldwide release.

3. No. I have occasionally duped licensed material off other people's tapes, though.

4. Hell yes. As a case in point, see Fushigi Yuugi a couple years ago....this title just would not have gotten picked up, period, without Tomodachi's distro. There are probably some other examples from the digisub era....on the manga side, it's pretty clear that Toriyama's World's scanslations got Naruto into Jump USA.

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Re: Informal Poll...give a little help here...

Post by godix » Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:11 pm

1. Do you own fansubs of unlicensed anime?

Yes

2. If so do you destroy these when liscensed version come available?

Yes with one exception: Studio Ghibli. I did delete them then realized at the rate Disney is going it'll take several decades before they're all actually released. So I imported a region free Ghibli box set from Taiwan that I will replace with official releases if Disney ever quits being a money grubbing intellectually bankrupt group of assholes who prefer ripping off anime stories for cheap knockoff pieces of crap and actually starts releasing anime they hold the license to. I suppose I shouldn't complain, at least America got Spirited Away instead of a Disney movie with the same plot shoved somewhere between an Elton John 5 minute song about how sad it is when your parents turn into pigs, animation sequences that couldn't be more obviously computer generated even if it had 'Product endorsement for Apple' printed in middle of the screen, and a Spirited Away Disney World ride that exits into the Japan section of Epcot complete with 50 shops selling Boh plushies and some poor high school kid in a No-Face costume dancing around.

3. Do you download anime that is already liscensed?

The first episode to see if it's worth watching. Delete it once I decide if I do/don't want to see the series.

4. (Please keep brief).... Do you believe fansubs of unliscensed anime helps to promote its release in areas other that japan?

Not really. Fansubs don't build popularity amoung anyone except hardcore fans and those are the fans that already know about American releases without the promotion anyway.
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Post by motemote » Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:34 pm

Yes,No,Yes,No.

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Post by Alex_Dragon » Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:09 pm

1.No
2.No, but if i had any i most likely wouldn't.
3.Yes,but its usually liscinsed but not released like the late episodes of inuyasha and yu yu hakusho.
4.not really
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Re: Informal Poll...give a little help here...

Post by J-0080 » Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:30 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:
1. Do you own fansubs of unlicensed anime?
Nope.
Moonlight Soldier wrote:2. If so do you destroy these when liscensed version come available?
See above.
Moonlight Soldier wrote:3. Do you download anime that is already liscensed?
No.
Moonlight Soldier wrote:4. (Please keep brief).... Do you believe fansubs of unliscensed anime helps to promote its release in areas other that japan?
Well, I suppose they do. The main problem I have with them, is when people just watch them, without ever buying the anime itself. The only exception I guess I could see to this would be for shows that haven't, and aren't going to be liscenced, anytime soon. But even then it doesn't seem quite right :|
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Post by Anlushac11 » Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:00 pm

8)

Q: Do you own fansubs of unlicensed anime?

A: Yes

Q: If so do you destroy these when liscensed version come available?

A: No I delete them as I buy the series.

Q: Do you download anime that is already liscensed?

A: No

Q: (Please keep brief).... Do you believe fansubs of unliscensed anime helps to promote its release in areas other that japan?

A: Yes. There are many titles that I have never heard of before and Fansubs have helped me realize that I like Comedy/romance animes. Plus I have several friends who buy lots of anime. I have shown them some fansubs stuff and they are anxiously awaiting its ommercial release. Like Scrapped Princess, Happy Lesson series, Last Exile.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:21 pm

1. No
2. No
3. No

4. In most cases, yes. Reasons have been stated previously. In some cases, I'm pretty sure it doesn't help at all.
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Post by TallonKarrde23 » Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:37 pm

Anlushac11 wrote:8)
A: Yes. There are many titles that I have never heard of before and Fansubs have helped me realize that I like Comedy/romance animes. Plus I have several friends who buy lots of anime. I have shown them some fansubs stuff and they are anxiously awaiting its ommercial release. Like Scrapped Princess, Happy Lesson series, Last Exile.
I think the first DVD of Last Exile came out already....or it will be. I dont konw, i saw an add for it in the November issue of NTUSA --; so yeah, its a month ahead so maybe next month --; But whatever.
For the questions
1.Yes
2.No, i dont plan on wasting all my CD-R's sense my comp cant handle CD-RW's.
3.Im not gonna say...merely cuz i dont feel like being bothered --; Though i DO buy alot, as you can see from the link in my sig...though its not THAT much it is enough...plus that not including the bootlegs i buy...but whatever
4.yeah...and im not gonna bother with a reason so too bad --;
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Post by Moonlight Soldier » Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:32 pm

With the topic of my expose in full view...I would like to state my actual opinion...*the opinions expressed in the expose are designed to PERSUADE you to believe such...ahem..not necessarily my opinion...twas increadibly bias since i omitted facts and twisted others...JUST SO YOU KNOW *

anyways my ACTUAL thoughts...

1. I have Sailor Moon Stars...that's it...should have been expected.
2. I will be the happiest person alive when (or if..*sniffle*) that becomes liscensed...It'll be all mine in its DVD glory ^^ then its goodbye RM version.
3. NO
4. Though my friends have a tendency to download stuff every five seconds and actually keep it, I don't ....(I download a crap load of AMV's though) however, I have watched a variety of fansubs with them. If anything I do think that fansubbing helps promote anime...it sure as hell makes me go out and spend my paychecks....*I'm poor*....though I'm one of those people who buys what she sees...and I find it annoying how people abuse the system by not buying what they watch....but I'll get over it...I buy the stuff ^^

Heh i broke my own rule *about being brief*...lol

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Post by SarahtheBoring » Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:04 pm

1. Do you own fansubs of unlicensed anime?
Well, one doesn't really OWN something like that, but yes.

2. If so do you destroy these when liscensed version come available?
Unless there's something else that I want to keep on the disc containing it, yes.

3. Do you download anime that is already liscensed?
God, no. I did once (a friend gave me an ep of something that was licensed) and I felt really guilty afterwards. Never again.

4. (Please keep brief).... Do you believe fansubs of unliscensed anime helps to promote its release in areas other that japan?

Uh, is "yes" brief enough? Speaking for myself, I know several series I probably wouldn't have known about, or wouldn't have bought or planned to buy if I hadn't seen them in fansubs first. Lately I tend to watch a few episodes of something to see if I like it, and if it shows some promise of being licensed I tend to stop and put it on my mental list of series to look out for. If it is licensed, then I buy it.

I think there are really only three ways I'd decide to buy something - recommendation from people I know whose tastes are like mine, renting and watching it beforehand (which only applies to things that are already licensed), or seeing some of it in fansubs.

So.

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