Do you think anime would proliferate without dubs?

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Post by OmniStrata » Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:40 pm

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Nurd wrote:Would anime still spread without dubs? Yes, as long as there were subs, very slowly, but yes, because admit it, those of us who like it, are not concerned with what languages are spoken in the movies and would still like anime even if we had to read subtitles for every last one of them.

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Is spreading slowly the same as proliferating? :p
The dictionary states that proliferate is to spread / bud / grow AT A RAPID pace...

Show me otherwise...

Would anime spread FAST FAST FAST without dubs?
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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:44 pm

No.
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Post by Tom the Fish » Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:25 am

I honestly couldn't care less. I was watching it without subs or dubs back when the only way to get series was laser disc from japan. I am very glad that DVDs have made things much easier, but there are enough great movies and shows that would be worth the trouble again.

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Post by SSJVegita0609 » Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:26 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:No.
Agreed, I know if I'd never seen the Ronin Warriors and dbz dubs way back in the day I probably wouldn't know what the hell anime is today.
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Post by Moonlight Soldier » Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:51 am

Here in North America, I'd say that anime probably wouldn't spread as fast without dubs. For one reason....Marketing. It's far easier to integrate something into pop culture (well...I don't know if anime actually fits into pop culture but anyways) if it's dubbed in the language.

For a non-anime example to get my point across...hmmm....For example, Jet Li (people like him, don't ask it's the first thing that came to mind), Hollywood can easily market his English movies...but have you ever seen many ads for any of his original stuff??

I think it would be the same with anime...so circulation would probably be slower (at first anyway).

I personally don't like English dubbing most of the time...I find they can do a better job in just about any language other than english....my preference is Japanese that i watch with subs...but i also have some anime dubbed in french and it's great...so ya...

there's my 2 cents.

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Post by bmatsea » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:27 pm

moomlight's right. Marketing is the key. Without dubs (even the crappy ones) Anime just would go as far. In my opinion most americans (NOT ALL OF US) are just to lazy to read subtitles or even learn a second language. That and think about it this was when people say Subtitled Most people think "must be one of those low budget foreign films." I heard that a lot when people talked about "Botherhood of the Wolf' and that was a great film. [/quote]
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Post by bmatsea » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:32 pm

damn my typing skills suck today. Or that I have a typo demon on my shoulder
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Post by Milliardo » Mon Aug 25, 2003 3:57 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:For a non-anime example to get my point across...hmmm....For example, Jet Li (people like him, don't ask it's the first thing that came to mind), Hollywood can easily market his English movies...but have you ever seen many ads for any of his original stuff??
I agree. My favorite Jet Li movies are the "Once Upon a Time in China" trilogy. They were great movies, but few people have seen them in America (may also be due to marketing). However, "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" (not a Li film, I know) was somewhat successful.

While most of us are used to subtitles, most of the general population isn't. I don't think anime would have become nearly as popular as it has without dubs.

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Post by Amaranth » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:21 pm

bmatsea wrote:moomlight's right. Marketing is the key. Without dubs (even the crappy ones) Anime just would go as far. In my opinion most americans (NOT ALL OF US) are just to lazy to read subtitles or even learn a second language. That and think about it this was when people say Subtitled Most people think "must be one of those low budget foreign films." I heard that a lot when people talked about "Botherhood of the Wolf' and that was a great film.
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There's a joke that fits this.

Someone who can speak three or more languages is called multi-lingual. Someone who can speak two languages is called bilingual. And someone who speaks one language is called American.
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