Why is it that I have to be rich to watch anime?

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:26 pm

Alright let me explain that then. Life insurance doesn't help if it is obtained after death, you must have it before death in order for it to be valid. And you didn't say it wasn't a good metaphor, you said it didn't have any relevance and was off-topic.

Sometimes, you just have to buy something even if you think it may never be useful. It's the same thing with anime, you buy it because you like anime not because you're sure that it's a good one. You buy insurance in case something bad happens. You can't say, "Well just put this insurance on hold, I don't want to pay anything unless something happens. Once I get in an accident, I'll pay for it then so I'm not wasting money." That's just not how it works. You buy it, not planning on using it but as security. Anime, you buy it, not knowing for sure if you'll like it but since it's anime, you probably will.

belkram23 · Post by **belkram23** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:32 pm

true. but you also didnt mention that. all you said was it wont help you after you're dead. you didnt mention anything about buying it before or after. and when i said you have to try something first, i was talking only about media. obviously when i go to the store i'm not gonna bite into every banana first to see if its good. and i'm not gonna buy an anime just because i've heard good things about it, its not a wise decision. same with music, if i hear a good song on the radio, i go to the music store and i use one of the play a cd machine things before buying it. buying a cd because of one good song is ridiculous. which i personally think they do on purpose. play the one real popular song on the radio to get people to buy it. you never know though, for all you know every song on the cd could be a winner. but at 20 dollars a pop, its not worth the risk for me. i'd rather preview it before buying. especially when a complete set of anime typically costs around 100 dollars.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:39 pm

I was hoping you'd pick that up from what I said. However sketchy it was.

belkram23 wrote:and i'm not gonna buy an anime just because i've heard good things about it, its not a wise decision.

Whether it's a wise decision or not isn't the case here. You're not supposed to be able to see anime for free. Just like insurance, you buy it even if you might never use it... or in anime's case, like it. That's just how it works, otherwise it's illegal but I guess it's cool nowadays to bend the law to make it more convenient and cheaper.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:49 pm

When that aniem channel comes out I don't care if I have to blow the cable guy I AM GETTING IT! paying money for something I, by all means shouldn't have to. And yes, go into the economics of why they need to rape my wallet for me to watch 4 or 5 eps of a show that I only plan to watch once or twice. If I had to buy all the anime I watch do you know how many animes I woudl have right now? 2 movies, maybe, 3, and I would NOT have a computer, clothing, CD player. If I did scrape the bottom of my piggy bank to dig the cash up for this stuff and stopped buying other things I would not even have the clothing that I'm wearing right now. let alone the computer I am using. And to recap what was in my post that somehow disapeared. The subs are low budget, not outragously big projects, the dubs are half-assed, and 90% suck. And just because the marked for anime is small, doesn't mean I need to get gouged to watch it.

belkram23 · Post by **belkram23** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:49 pm

well in that case even trying to preview with one or two episodes is illegal. as well as letting a friend borrow it, or taping it off of tv. actually i think the taping off of tv comes the closest to what i'm doing. lol or maybe combine the two, taping it off of tv and then letting a friend borrow it. because i didnt put the anime on the net. someone else did, which is similar to taping it off tv, only you're ripping it from a dvd or something. the only difference between the two is the number of people. i'm just one of the friends. and whats more is if i go out and buy it because i borrowed it from a friend, that could technically be seen as a form of advertising

. what would be immoral is if all i ever did was d/l and watch and never buy. and what would be wrong is if i d/l, made copies and sold the copies. which is the big big difference, the same thing going on with mp3s. the law says you can make copies as long as its for personal use, and you're not using them to get a profit. least for tv and vhs. i dont think a dvd law has come out yet.

how is buying a dvd, making a bunch of copies, and then giving them to friends illegal. the dvd has been paid for, and the copies are not being sold. the business is not losing any money. i dont see how that differs from renting a movie, and then watching it on a big screen with 300 of your friends. true they're seeing the movie for free, but its already been paid for.

belkram23 · Post by **belkram23** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:58 pm

heh, yeah it is a bit off topic though. a debate whether its illegal and/or immoral to rip dvds and cds could take quite some time.

Nappy · Post by **Nappy** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:00 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote: I have been trying to learn japanese so I can understand what the people are sayign so I wont need the sub titles, and thrildy, translating and subbign things does not cost as much as you make it out to be.

You might want to finish learning English first.

belkram23 wrote:ha ha. i'm a parasite and proud of it. i d/l and watch em, and if i like em i'll buy em. simple as that. its stupid to buy something you've only heard stuff about.

If that's the case, I never would have got Eva, Tenchi, and Bebop among many others. It's stupid to assume everyone as the time or the inclination to find and download every anime they are told is great and worth every penny by many people. Especially those with 56k and/or don't know about fansubs or how to find them. People go to the movies solely based on a trailer or word of mouth, and shell out 7-10 dollars to view it once, a dvd will cost about 20 and you can resell it if you don't like it or keep it forever if you do. Perhaps thats alot of money to those with no jobs, who have their parents pay for their DSL and electric bill.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:02 pm

Actually tapng this off tv is not illegal, and any and all anime that is halfway decent I tape record it (when I konw its on, so far the only thing has been macross plus.) But downloading is illegal, sharing with friends is illegal, letting them watch it at your house is not illegal. but If anime were televised more then the market on the net of ripping and encoding anime would dry up like a rasin in the sun. And on top of that, I would see the prices of DVD's dropping like a lead weight since they can't gouge people since they already got to see it on TV.

belkram23 · Post by **belkram23** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:07 pm

well i will ammend my statement. because just because you buy something based on word of mouth doesnt necessarily mean you're stupid, however you are taking a big chance. my electric bill isnt that bad actually, however it is due to not having a 56k. got cable not dsl, pretty cheap. howver even if you dont have the speed to be downloading things all the time, you can still rent them before buying them. the only problem i find with that is the selection typically isnt all that great. as for the movies, unless its a really great movie that i know i'll enjoy, like lotr, or a movie that will only look good in a theatre, like star wars, i typically just stick to waiting til they come to the video stores.

belkram23 · Post by **belkram23** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:10 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:Actually tapng this off tv is not illegal, and any and all anime that is halfway decent I tape record it (when I konw its on, so far the only thing has been macross plus.) But downloading is illegal, sharing with friends is illegal, letting them watch it at your house is not illegal.

ha ha, guess its just me then. but i really dont see the difference between watching it at your house with a friend, and physically giving it to him to watch at his own home without me. lol, does that mean if i leave the room for popcorn and he's there by himself he's breaking the law