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What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby jt_x » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:01 am

So against all odds Trump won the election.
I didn't think he could win given all the manipulation from the media and Hillary's Campaign, there was even an article that stated that Hillary didn't even think about Trump anymore. I think it's fair to say that everyone thought that Hillary would win, even the Southpark creators had to make some last minute changes to an episode cause they wrote it with the assumption that Hillary would win. Having said that what are your thoughts on Trump winning the election ?

My own thoughts:
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I personally think that Trump is the better choice my main reason to like Trump is that he seems very anti PC Culture which is a big plus in my book. I think that Trump won because he seems more honest and Hillary just seems so much more manipulative and dishonest. Here's to hoping that he doesn't nuke some country or something. May the meme magic that elected him stay with him over his 4 year presidency :sorcerer:

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby ngsilver » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:50 pm

I'm dissapointed but not surprised.

The dems failed to understand the importance of actually discussing the issues, debating, and talking. Instead they fronted a dishonest republican (if you think Clinton is anything but, you were duped) who offered no change and spent the mass majority of her campaign basically saying, "Look at this douche. Look at him! He's a douche. Don't vote for a douche!" and all that did is put more spotlight on Trump and the fact that he actually DID have opinions, actually DID discuss the issues. Doesn't matter if we didn't like his views. They were different. Could Bernie have beaten him? Who knows, hind sight is 20/20. But it would have been a much more interesting and much less one sided race.

I mean, collectively neither side could convince over half of the eligible voters in the country to actually turn out... That right there speaks volumes to me.
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby slimed » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:59 pm

did you not watch the debates? hillary discussed her plans thoroughly. i feel that your depiction of clinton actually applies to trump. they both definitely took jabs at each other back and forth, i'd say trump more so. but at least clinton discussed policies in addition to that. those voting trump into office aren't the type of people who care about issues, they like how unaffiliated with "politics" he is. trump's plans were "i will defeat isis." "i will make jobs." "i will make america great again." just ambiguous phrases that the uneducated working class will eat up. those are the people who were taken advantage of and those are the people i expect to be neglected over the course of the next four years.

anyway to answer op. not surprising at all with america's current social state. i think he's a shounen manga villain and that his supporters are misguided. unfortunate outcome
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby jt_x » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:53 pm

it's interesting to see that people aren't surprised that he won. Even in my country the media was very much pro hillary biased and due to this I thought that he would lose.

slimed wrote:but at least clinton discussed policies in addition to that

yeah but she also had all the questions from the debates beforehand according to the leaked wiki leaks emails. This is the reason why trump was so defensive in the debates he just didn't have things planned out well enough which he simply wasn't able to due to the manipulation that was going on.
southpark summed it up perfectly

slimed wrote:i think he's a shounen manga villain and that his supporters are misguided. unfortunate outcome

the guy that is honest is the villain ? haha yeah sure.

I agree with ngsilver Hillary's campaign was just fucking brain dead they even turned pepe into a fucking hate symbol just cause someone screamed "PEPE!" at a Hillary rally, I mean how out of touch with reality can one be ?

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby The_McLaughlin » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:48 am

To be honest I have mixed feelings about, but I would still have mixed feelings if Hillary won too. I feel like Trump might be bennificial to the United States Fiscally, but his social ideals I don't really agree with. Meanwhile Hillary I don't know how much I'd really want to trust her. The FBI may have said that they didn't find any conclusive evidence but anyone else in that situation wouldn't have even been able to run for president. On top of that she still broke the law with her servers and like not being able to run for president while under investigation like anyone else, anyone else would probablly be in jail right now. That being said Trump also went under investigation during his run for sexual assault alligations so really he shouldn't have been in the running at that point either.
Regardless they both suck, but Trump's the president now, so while he's kind of an asshole and I'm a bit worried about somethings that he say's he'll implement, hopefully I'll be proven wrong and he'll do a good job all around. Hopefully I'll be worried about stuff for nothing.

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby ngsilver » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:52 am

slimed wrote:did you not watch the debates?

No. I didn't have time to spend watching something that the majority of the country doesn't watch. I already made up my mind about both candidates long before the first debate between them so wasn't much use for me. What I have seen however is the abundance of ads on TV (which is where the majority of people actually get their political fill for the day) which were nothing but attack after attack. I saw news cast after news cast that mainly focused on how bad Trump was. Issues were rarely discussed, but I didn't expect them to be. This really hasn't changed in the 16 years since I started actually paying attention to things like politics.

If you know where to look you can easily find the actual stances that each candidate holds on topics without having to watch debates, TV, or browse social media. However the majority of people, especially voting age, don't do this. They eat up whatever the media, TV, and social media feeds them.

In the end I am dissapointed but not surprised. However I don't think things will be any where near as bad as we were all led to believe by the media, Clinton, and even Trump's words himself during the campaign. I've seen it over and over again, promises made during a campaign that NEVER come true. I've researched back long before I was born and noticed this hasn't changed really either. Sure, there is a tone that we have been used to these past 8 years that will change. But overall who the president is makes very little impact on individual lives. The world will go on. I think we'll all be surprised at how PC Trump actually can be.

If not... well... the 5th of November isn't THAT far away.....
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby Kionon » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:16 am

Trump is a fascist. Bannon, Sessions, and his other cabinet picks prove it. Buckle up if you're not a Christian straight cisgender able-bodied white male. Because shit's about to get real.
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby seasons » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:20 pm

jt_x wrote:My own thoughts:
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I personally think that Trump is the better choice my main reason to like Trump is that he seems very anti PC Culture which is a big plus in my book. I think that Trump won because he seems more honest and Hillary just seems so much more manipulative and dishonest. Here's to hoping that he doesn't nuke some country or something. May the meme magic that elected him stay with him over his 4 year presidency :sorcerer:


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jt_x wrote:southpark summed it up perfectly


South Park is gross.



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slimed wrote:did you not watch the debates?

No. I didn't have time to spend watching something that the majority of the country doesn't watch. I already made up my mind about both candidates long before the first debate between them so wasn't much use for me.


Being a low-information voter (or not?) in a swing state with the lowest margin difference in the results isn't quite the badge of honor you're making it out to be.

ngsilver wrote:he actually DID have opinions, actually DID discuss the issues.


Outside of sound bites that did not indicate any degree of intellectual curiosity or acknowledgment of the inherent complexity of any issue he was "addressing," Trump did not coherently articulate a single policy position in any detail whatsoever.

We could all discuss why that was or why that actually worked in his favor but that's a subjective argument. Describing his campaign persona some kind of policy wonk is straight up gaslighting.

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby seasons » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:25 pm

I had a hard time deciding whether or not to make that post, because I don't want to attack anyone here that I like or respect and inevitably, that's probably how it's going to come out.

I could post a lot more about that I'm going to get a haircut right now.

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby Kionon » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:41 am

Trump is a fascist. Trump is a fascist. Trump is a fascist.
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby ngsilver » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:33 pm

seasons wrote:
ngsilver wrote:
slimed wrote:did you not watch the debates?

No. I didn't have time to spend watching something that the majority of the country doesn't watch. I already made up my mind about both candidates long before the first debate between them so wasn't much use for me.


Being a low-information voter (or not?) in a swing state with the lowest margin difference in the results isn't quite the badge of honor you're making it out to be.

First time I've ever heard of Michigan being considered a swing state. We're primarily a blue state, especially the area I come from, Detroit. And I never said anything about being a low-information voter. I pull my info from many locations and the debates are not one of them and never have been. I also am proudly neither Democrat or Republican so if we talk straight ticket obviously both sides of the coin here don't get my vote, never have, and most likely never will. So if 3rd parties are not in the debate what reason do I need to view them when it's just a platform for the 2 big parties to talk and no one else is allowed. It's an issue with this '2 party' system we apparently have and I have issues with that. Just saiyan |:>

Also, I don't take anything said so far as an attack, even if it was meant to be. Politics and religion are heavily debated and heated topics and mostly I prefer to keep out of such conversations. I also like to play devils advocate and rarely speak for myself directly but instead for others when I do debate on political topics so as with anything you see on the internet, take what I say with a grain of salt, I could just be yanking some chains :awesome:
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby seasons » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:50 pm

Kionon wrote:Trump is a fascist. Trump is a fascist. Trump is a fascist.


I have nothing further to add to this post.

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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby SeNniN » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:27 am

It was a bit of a surprise. This election seemed like it's all fun and games till Trump is elected. Trump was taken as a joke, so people were at ease knowing he couldn't possibly win, and bam he's in the white house, lol. I don't even believe in this made believe political system.
It's all corrupt and rigged to the bone. Regardless of whoever would have gotten elected the outcome will never change.
Obama came with the promise of ending all wars and started several after being elected.
But, it does bring discrimination and fuel the wrong crowd within US that look up to their elected president views on other religion and races as something acceptable. There could be a rise in hate crimes that's for sure.
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Re: What are your thoughts about Trump winning the election?

Postby seasons » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:53 pm

I personally think that Trump is the better choice my main reason to like Trump is that he seems very anti PC Culture which is a big plus in my book.


It's probably "okay" that you believe this, since you don't live here and you probably wouldn't even vote if you did. But to the extent that you actually believe this is a real thing, you've been completely fooled. And I know, it helps you make sense of your life. It feels good to be racist, to bully women, to call people crybabies for asking people to be nice and respectful. It feels good to wield power over others, to tell them that their concerns aren't real, that they don't have any reason to be upset, that there's nothing wrong with the world and that the only thing that's wrong is them. That feels good. Bullying feels good. I was bullied in school, but I also bullied others and that felt fucking amazing. So I get where you're coming from. When your life is a joke and you've got nothing else to feel good about, sticking it to people who are weaker than you, who have no easy instant-comeback that can put you in your place, feels great, and of course you don't want to give that up. That feeling crosses boarders, it's probably the same in your corner of the world as it is here. With the Internet, it's all the same. Heck, that's your space, that's your world, the idea that anyone would want you to tone it down or think twice about saying anything probably feels really oppressive to you! Even if that hasn't actually happened to you, the idea of it happening probably feels like an insult to you. The idea that Trump will...fight for your rights to mock women or trans people (?), I don't know, whatever you're worried about having to stop doing, isn't really going to happen, but I guess his win psychologically validates your urge to bully people, so if that feels good, I hope you got a nice little thrill out of it.

I think that Trump won because he seems more honest and Hillary just seems so much more manipulative and dishonest.


I guess I don't understand this statement. Are you saying that he's "honest" because he's honest about his feelings? Like, he's honest in the sense that he really believes that all immigrants are rapists or that women lie about being raped or things like that? Is that the kind of "honesty" that you're referring to? What are you getting at? Are you actually describing Donald Trump as an honest person, someone who does not tell lies?

If you actually have an opinion about Donald Trump, then it stands to reason that you have actually paid attention to him over the last year and listened to some of the things he's been saying. Did you actually do this, or have you just heard rumors about him and enjoyed supporting him as an abstract figure that you don't actually know anything about?

I mean, you know he's a transparently dishonest con man who routinely lies in public on a daily basis, right? You have to understand that describing Donald Trump as "honest" is like...I don't even have words for this. You could be trolling. We'll never know, and trying to engage you honestly could be a tremendous waste of time, which could be just what you want.

Of course Hillary "seems more manipulative and dishonest," she was professionally smeared for 30 years and there's a massive part of the electorate in the United States that simply hates her for a bunch of fabricated reasons cooked up by the right-wing media who has effectively turned her into this guy. I'm confident that you haven't absorbed these from where you're at so it's reasonable that you're just buying into that belief for reasons that just affirms your worldview and your inherent distrust of certain people.

Here's to hoping that he doesn't nuke some country or something.


Do you think that's funny?

May the meme magic that elected him stay with him over his 4 year presidency :sorcerer:


The Internet is making young kids think racism is cool, and you're really happy about that for some reason.

Aside from a few super-prolific editors on the Org, I tend to associate most people here that I kind of, sort of know with one or two AMVs that they've made. Last year, you released this one, which was inspired by some things that really affect me. So I guess I felt like we had something in common, which is why I feel... disappointed? Confused? Frustrated by the fact that you're...amused by the fact that someone could rape your mom or your sister or whatever, and basically be promoted for it? That you think nuclear war is a joke, worth laughing about, less important than putting "SJWs" in their place or whatever?

Do you have any goals in your life? What are you working for? What's important to you?

Not quoting your post because you seem to be taking time off from here and I get the feeling that's a good thing.


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