Green Day / Blink-182

FoolThemAll · Post by **FoolThemAll** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:22 pm

shadow-the-hedgehog wrote:Allright...this shit is pissing me off. Just let it go. Jace did why the fuck can't you. I swear grow up d00de.

I see nothing wrong with being persistent in questioning that which I perceive to be unsubstantiated.

If it's childish, then I'm sorry but I have no desire to grow up.

Jace can end the debate if he wants to. No one's stopping him.

shadow-the-hedgehog · Post by **shadow-the-hedgehog** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:27 pm

He did try to stop this, 3 page pointless debate. You are the one who keeps pestering him about it. Just take this to PM or IM, jeebus christo!

FoolThemAll · Post by **FoolThemAll** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:28 pm

Trying to stop a thread by continually posting to it doesn't work very well. At least in my experience.

shadow-the-hedgehog · Post by **shadow-the-hedgehog** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:34 pm

FoolThemAll wrote:Trying to stop a thread by continually posting to it doesn't work very well. At least in my experience.

Then by your definition, you are the provoker. You keep pestering him, just stop. You don't have to post about anything, just leave with dignity now. If you never want to grow up, then you should die. Everyone must grow up, even for a little while...

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:39 pm

shadow-the-hedgehog wrote:
FoolThemAll wrote:Trying to stop a thread by continually posting to it doesn't work very well. At least in my experience.
Then by your definition, you are the provoker. You keep pestering him, just stop. You don't have to post about anything, just leave with dignity now. If you never want to grow up, then you should die. Everyone must grow up, even for a little while...

lol, makes me think of 3 songs.

Toys R' Us theme song (from the golden ages as we know OUR childhood)
Peter Pan's Lost Boy's song
and Simple Plan - Grow Up

All good songs... I think I'll go downlaod the Toys R' Us and Peterpan songs now. (Ialready have Simple Plan's CD)

FoolThemAll · Post by **FoolThemAll** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:39 pm

shadow-the-hedgehog wrote:
FoolThemAll wrote:Trying to stop a thread by continually posting to it doesn't work very well. At least in my experience.
Then by your definition, you are the provoker. You keep pestering him, just stop. You don't have to post about anything, just leave with dignity now. If you never want to grow up, then you should die. Everyone must grow up, even for a little while...

Provoker? Yeah, why not, I guess that's a fair label. I want to continue the debate. So I provoke him to do so.

I want to post. I like this debate and I want it to continue.

I don't consider that childish, so I don't think I need to grow up. And I don't see how I've lost any dignity.

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:40 pm

FoolThemAll wrote:Why am I incorrect in saying that the end result is bad?

Because the end result being "good" or "bad" is a matter of opinion and therefore cannot truly be inherently "good" or "bad".

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:43 pm

Alucard_FoN wrote:
FoolThemAll wrote:Why am I incorrect in saying that the end result is bad?
Because the end result being "good" or "bad" is a matter of opinion and therefore cannot truly be inherently "good" or "bad".

Actually, that was my argument, you just supported him.

I was saying regardless of opinions, if a highly skilled band puts in good time towards composing a great album and it comes out to their ideals the way they wanted it to, and it's a musicly gifted album, then it's a good CD.

When being opinionated, one should approach their comments such as "I don't like it" as compared to "It's bad"

That was my argument, but it's a pointless argument. One I refuse to carry on with him anymore.

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:46 pm

Right, the main problem seems to be that you are arguing whether it's technically good while he is arguing whether it's good in his opinion. Two completely different things. A rap album can be technically good... talented artist and what all... that doesn't mean I like it, because I don't like rap.

Technical goodness != opinion goodness.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:50 pm

yeah that's what I was saying, and I even used the same logic, but instead of Rap sued Justin Timberlake. I think he has a great CD.

But, he doesn't udnerstand. He wants me to try and prove to him that it's a good album, so the conversation is voer, and he keeps trying to push me back into a cycle of never ending arguing, simply because he doens't understand.

He won't see that Blink-182's album take Off, Your Pants, & Jacket is a good album, because he doens't like it.

And that's that.

It'd probably take me ripping the CD, and highlighting technical acheivments in composure and skill to convince him, which is why I backed down, the argument is stupid.