subgenres are retarded

Harlock7876 · Post by **Harlock7876** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:27 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:Some people say Tool is math metal/rock.

And these people don't know crap. Probably the same people that say Tool is prog-metal. Then again Tool seems to think that of itself, which would explain why they played with King Crimson.
Tool is not prog. Tool is not math metal. Spiral Architect on the other hand......

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Wed May 19, 2004 4:49 am

Then what is Tool? You seem to know all the answers. I don't care what you want to call Spiral Architect. Genre wars are stupid. You don't know everything.

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Wed May 19, 2004 7:04 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:Then what is Tool?

i give em they're own genre

if primus can have one so can everyone else

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Wed May 19, 2004 7:20 am

I've always thought of Tool as Prog Rock. They're so much different than anything else out there that I've ever caught a wiff of, and I've heard a LOT. There are definite mathimatical influences in Tools work.

DDramone · Post by **DDramone** » Wed May 19, 2004 11:23 am

iono. not that ive ever listened to tool (exept when im in the care with my friends) but i've always asociated prog with pretentiousness. tool doesnt seem like that.

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Wed May 19, 2004 1:42 pm

Prog is short for progressive. To Progress. 99.9% of bands do this in idiotic stupid horrible sounding ways. I've got a CD sample from ProgPower IV full of Prog Metal that would make you want to cut out your ears.

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Wed May 19, 2004 1:43 pm

but then that was a lowblow to prog metal, as i'm so accustomed to doing.

I recind statement from thread. Let it be 'stricken from the record' so to speak.

ithaqua · Post by **ithaqua** » Wed May 19, 2004 2:44 pm

Qyot27 wrote:
DDramone wrote:??? whao, wats a punk metal band?
Die Toten Hosen, as far as http://www.allmusic.com is concerned. They are really good, by the way.

Amen would also fall under that.
You should also check out Pailhead, a one-shot side project between Ministry and Fugazi. Or maybe Lard, a side project between Ministry and the Dead Kennedys. Or just Ministry. They're cool no matter what you normally listen to (with the exception of that 1995-2000 period of crap).

milatchi · Post by **milatchi** » Wed May 19, 2004 5:19 pm

What about sheet metal?

Zing!

FoolThemAll · Post by **FoolThemAll** » Wed May 19, 2004 6:59 pm

There's this one guy I know from another board who insists that everything today that's called emo is absolutely not, is instead just pop-punk. An example he gives of real emo is the band Moss Icon. I don't know if he's right or not, but I do know that Moss Icon kiss the collective asses of every band I've heard that's popularly considered emo.

Yeah, subgenres suck. But they can be good for approximations. They just get f'n annoying whenever a genre dispute arises.