The Dying Music Industry

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon May 05, 2003 1:29 pm

well, like I said Ja, people are pirating cheap CDs too

And most CDs arn't expensive. I can import foreign copies of the CDs I buy for less than $20

TekkaRepliroid Zero · Post by **TekkaRepliroid Zero** » Mon May 05, 2003 1:43 pm

Ja wrote:I am not gonna pay 13-20 bucks for a CD that I would only listen to 1 song on, so I just wont buy the CD.

This is why I have a fondness for singles. You get that one song you love plus a few remixes of that song (and sometimes paired with another song or two), which sell for only a couple of bucks (less than 5 usually (the exceptions being those with something like 10 remixes (Die Another Day for example)), and that's in Canadian funs, that's 3 $US).

madmallard · Post by **madmallard** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:55 pm

I am not gonna pay 13-20 bucks for a CD that I would only listen to 1 song on, so I just wont buy the CD. With mp3's I can DL that one song, listen to it, even tell friends about it, so you see we are not really stealing anything

But you are stealing. The record company says you have to pay to listen to this music. Even if you get it off a radio, the radio station paid for the rights to play the music.

You may feel justified in doing it, but it doesn't change the fact that they say you should pay money to them for their product/service.

Saying that you wouldn't buy it anyways doesn't mean anything. even if the original prodcut is crap and over priced

another big piece of the problem is that recording companies in the big highlite have gotten used to pop music as something they can manufacture.

for the longest time, record companies were pretty unstable. They drifted around looking for talent, booking acts, and planning world tours. Record sales were only figrueable if they already had a smash artist. . .Now after the boy band craze, record companies have gotten greedy because they think that they can 'manufacture' a winner on demand. Obviously the public is now sick of what they've been Manufacturing.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon May 05, 2003 5:49 pm

Yeah, sick of Pop.... so they move onto Punk Rock... taking bands that already exist but just giving them meraculous "career breaks" and sending them straight to the top........ Bastards

People should just let artists do their own thing, all this minipulation is what's killing it.

They think Punk is all hot shit because it has millions of udnerground fans, but what happens if you take those underground fans out?

What happens if you take the support beams out from udnerneath a house, and fill the house with MTV driven little girls that just want to aprty and get drunk? The house collapses.

They're pulling popular artists from our community, what happens if we just stop liking this type of music? And we stop picking popular artists to like, they run out of stuff to steal.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon May 05, 2003 5:53 pm

*double post*

What's sad is we like a lot of Brand New bands. Everyone in the community are such true music fans we tend to know just about everything about a band, so although we love some older bands, we get really attatched to new ones.

So they're not even really pulling the bands we love, they're pulling out the new stuff only.

If they were actually looking for talent, and pulling bands that deserve to be up there, Home Grown is an example of a band that should be popular. Been around for years, several CDs, yet The All American Rejects who were opening shows for them just a few months ago are now over 100x more famous across the world.

Even though they only have ONE CD.

Which as popular as they are Ja, is still only 9.99, and people pirate it.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Tue May 06, 2003 8:49 am

Why would I want to support the music industry that does the following to artists?

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

There is, at present, a few record labels which I readily give up my money for. But I download stuff that even they release. I don't feel guilty about it because I give up about 1/3 of my total income to them, and will buy absolutely anything and everything from them once I get more money.

But these labels are few, and the record industry will try to hide the truth about them from you. Still, even in a small-town record store - look at the back of some CD's... if their copyright disclaimer seems a little funky, that's the companies I meant.

Oh, and if downloading music will help screw over the bastards like those record company pricks or Clear Channel, I'd gladly pay for more bandwith...

madmallard · Post by **madmallard** » Tue May 06, 2003 6:48 pm

or buy used. ;p

Got the foo fighters cd used, complete with bonus DVD.

Now theres a band and a label that has a clue how to do it right.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Tue May 06, 2003 7:57 pm

it's true some record labels suck, but I'm fortunate ebough that most of the music I like all have great labels.

There's no label in the world better than Drive-Thru Records

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Tue May 06, 2003 8:12 pm

Rozard wrote:Kamoc is my hero, along with kthulhu.

=O

I'm still your hero o_O ?

I demand you put your list of heroes in your sig!

On topic?

The music offerings suck. Plain and simple. None of today's pop, for instance, can touch 80s (New Wave and otherwise) pop, or a lot of the good stuff out of the 90s. It's all dull love or R & B, or shitty "deep" songs. Deep like a kiddie pool. Sure, the time period I mentioned didn't have meaningful lyrics, but THE MUSIC WAS THERE. The artists could actually play instruments and sing. Where is today's "Take On Me" (A-ha!), "Shout" (Tears For Fears), "Enjoy The Silence" (Depeche Mode) or "Regret" (New Order)? Nowhere!

Marketability, LARGE immediate profits over tidy ones, and image have replaced artistry and music in the mainstream today. The industry BUILDS "artists" for now, instead of actively seeking out artists that have long term potential. Where's Saliva now? Where's Drowning Pool (disregarding their lead singer's death)? Where will Korn, Linkin Park, or Slipknot be in five or ten years, in their fans heads as well as physically? Probably nowhere....

Anyhow, back to listening to Depeche Mode and Two-Mix for me.... 8)

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Tue May 06, 2003 9:31 pm

kthulhu wrote:
Rozard wrote:Kamoc is my hero, along with kthulhu.

=O
I'm still your hero o_O ?

I demand you put your list of heroes in your sig!

NEVAR!!!