WTF is the difference between Nu-Metal and other metal?

shai-hulud · Post by **shai-hulud** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:18 am

Jace Tsunami wrote:that band in your user name broke up.

I know

. Im glad I got an autograph before it happened.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:48 am

Harlock7876 · Post by **Harlock7876** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:48 pm

Otohiko wrote: Lastly, there's prog-metal, which, contrary to common belief, is not a genre (like death metal or most of nu-metal). It's actually stuff that can't be classified, since it often uses bizzare influences and fusions, and violates what you'd call 'typical metal' structure. A lot of it is notorious for mathematic-like complexity.

That's my take on it. Some may think otherwise since, like I said - the classification is really pretty loose.

Prog-metal isn't a genre? There are a number of bands that do seem to tread the line between prog and similar genres like power and technical, but there a lot of CDs out there that got stickers on them calling their respective bands "Progressive Metal". Dream Theater's latest has a sticker that says "The latest progressive metal masterpiece from Dream Theater" on it. There are plenty of people on the net that will say similar stuff to myself. Maybe prog-metal is more of a binding string since prog-metal thrives on complexity, melodies, and epic song length which can easily cover larger genres.
Then again, does it really matter? Just as long as you enjoy what you're listening to and so do others so you can talk all about it.....

azulmagia · Post by **azulmagia** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:03 pm

Article in [i]Bizarre[/i] Magazine wrote:Korn....the "Kings of Nu-Metal." That's like being called "The Inventors of AIDS."

I might quote other snippets from the article in the future if I feel like it.

onizuka_sensai · Post by **onizuka_sensai** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:52 pm

man who's dissing korn?

(new-metal) slipknot korn static x... good shit you mojo's

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:30 am

Umm.....no.

Set_Abominae · Post by **Set_Abominae** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:45 am

Of course there's prog metal... Rush.

Carbunk1e · Post by **Carbunk1e** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:07 pm

Generally Nu-Metal focuses more on guitar rhythm less on guitar skill (ie solos and complex riffs) and is much more aggressive than the older 70s, 80s and 90s rock.

Nu-Metal generally has a really bad connotation tagged along with it. Most bands will say things like "your vocals suck, heck you could be the lead singer in a nu-metal band". Or "your guitarist is 10 right? I mean he sounds like the lead guitarist in a nu-metal band". Just really mean or really sarcastic comments saying how unskilled Nu-Metal bands are.

Also, I've taken note that popular bands generally get tagged "Nu-Metal" either appropriately or inappropriately just because people get sick of hearing them, whether or not they fit that genre. Also bands that are tagged as Nu-Metal and actually fit it always come out saying they're "Rap/Aggro/Metal". I just find the entire situation funny ^_^.

"Metal" I usually dont' think of "Heavy Metal" in that category. Usually Metal, I think if Black Metal, Death Metal, etc etc.. Usually something that involves complicated guitar solos, difficult and complex pieces involving skill. Although, I've seen tons of counter examples... Metal just has a better connotation than Nu-Metal.

~dj carbunk1e

Pierrot Le Fou · Post by **Pierrot Le Fou** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:02 pm

I dont know where it started, but I have trouble with System of A Down being called nu-metal. No matter how you slice it they have nothing to do with nu-metal. SOAD is a politically charged band that has more to do with fierce ballads, and frenetic, punk like pacing than heavy, ponderous guitars and gutteral screams. Serj has too good a voice to be called nu-metal. I've always been under the impression that prog metal meant programmed rather than progressive, because most bands that I hear of under that heading have a strong electronic influence like Mudvayne. It's all open to interpretation I guess.

Set_Abominae · Post by **Set_Abominae** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:29 pm

Pierrot Le Fou wrote:I dont know where it started, but I have trouble with System of A Down being called nu-metal. No matter how you slice it they have nothing to do with nu-metal. SOAD is a politically charged band that has more to do with fierce ballads, and frenetic, punk like pacing than heavy, ponderous guitars and gutteral screams. Serj has too good a voice to be called nu-metal. I've always been under the impression that prog metal meant programmed rather than progressive, because most bands that I hear of under that heading have a strong electronic influence like Mudvayne. It's all open to interpretation I guess.

SOAD used to be really original and innovative. Their second album was melodic but contrived and their last album was blatantly ripping off black sabbath riffs when they weren't trying too hard to be controversial. They're just not special or original anymore. They just got worse. I stopped calling anything nu-metal. I use the word Mallcore. Because when something isn't 'nu-metal' but can definitely be lumped with other 'nu-metal' bands talent wise, it is Mallcore.