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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Honou_Miko » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:40 pm

Scintilla wrote: To be fair, I actually entered my video in the Upbeat category, as I saw it as more of a dance vid, plus I wanted to go for the repeat. :P
Ohh, I never said it's a bad formula. It's like a recipe for REALLY GOOD APPLE PIE.

Or pizza, or fried chicken. :ying:

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Post by gotenks794 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:42 pm

Just out of curiosity, how was the room set up this year? Same as last year?
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Post by TheTsunami » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:44 pm

gotenks794 wrote:Just out of curiosity, how was the room set up this year? Same as last year?
Reserved seats for the editors were at the front on each side (i.e. centered with each of the projectors but flanking the stage/audio system).
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Post by irriadin » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:45 pm

TsunamiX wrote:
gotenks794 wrote:Just out of curiosity, how was the room set up this year? Same as last year?
Reserved seats for the editors were at the front on each side (i.e. centered with each of the projectors but flanking the stage/audio system).
This and there also were two projectors in main events, with seating in the center to each side.

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Post by TheTsunami » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:49 pm

For anyone who was curious (given the drama of the past month), overflow had a healthy attendance (not to mention the various other AMV panels all reaching capacity and turning away many people at the door).
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Post by gotenks794 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:56 pm

outlawed wrote:I look forward to reading "Hey Chief where's that fire?" stories from our intrepid AMVers who went to Otakon.
What happened? I heard the fire alarm was pulled. Of all the years to miss Otakon...
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Post by dwchang » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:37 pm

TsunamiX wrote:The pattern for Otakon video voting has always been really standard. Comedy rules all. The best way to win a category like Romance/Sentimental (which the audience always gives a collective groan to) is to get as much comedy into your video as possible without being moved out of the category. The most blatant example of this was 'Sailor Love Story' in 2005, which was a blatant comedy video that managed to convince judges to let it compete in Romance/Sentimental. This year's winner in that category was an excellent video, but the comedic presence ensured it's victory. The audience just doesn't care for the category otherwise.
100% agreed. I've seen it happen at Otakon as well as other AMV Contests for years now. Unless the folks choosing what goes where properly place videos, it'll continue to happen and you can't blame the audience too much. They vote for what they enjoy, even if it has nothing to do with the actual category. We gotta keep in mind that this discussion is by editors who take the hobby more seriously and (I'd like to think) put thought into our votes. The audience isn't like that and again, you can't blame them. They have a fairly simple voting algorithm:
"Which video did I enjoy the most?"

Rather than:
"Which video was the best AND most appropriate for the given category?"

I've actually voted for videos that were "weaker" than others because I felt the better edited ones didn't necessarily fit the category.
Cyanna wrote:What about dwchang's model for a winning romance AMV? They're not usually funny...

I think with the audience it's less about actual comedy and more about being something that they can relate to whether it's a comedic romance or a more tug at your heartstrings kind of video.
To reiterate TsunamiX's assertion, I lost to the comedy video he mentioned earlier and it wasn't even close. And that year I made the sappiest video possible so I don't agree :P. When they go head to head:

Romance <<<<< Upbeat < Comedy

I remember thinking "Hmm...I wonder if other editors will figure this out?" back in 2005 when the video TsunamiX mentioned won. Looks like they did.
TsunamiX wrote:Keep in mind that not every year does someone make the Romance finals with a video containing comedy (as well as dwchang's wins being 6 and 7 years ago now).
Now to be fair, my last win was three years ago, not six or seven so I'm not THAT old school. Even if my first Otakon win was 7 years ago...OK maybe I am that old...thanks -_-;;.

In any case, I've seen this pattern of editors editing something with as much comedy (or upbeat) as possible and submitting into another category (it's not only romance) for awhile now. It's unfortunate, but you can't blame editors who want to win going for the path of least resistance. Especially when it's so obvious.
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Post by jubjub2 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:42 pm

Congrats to all the winners! I look forward to seeing all of these!

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Post by CodeZTM » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:48 pm

Was there some kind of drama in the romance category I need to know about? :uhoh:

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Post by Kitsuner » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:02 pm

CodeZTM wrote:Was there some kind of drama in the romance category I need to know about? :uhoh:
A lot of romance videos tend to have drama in them. It's nothing new.
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Post by gotenks794 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:04 pm

Kitsuner wrote:
CodeZTM wrote:Was there some kind of drama in the romance category I need to know about? :uhoh:
A lot of romance videos tend to have comedy in them. It's nothing new.
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Post by jubjub2 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:06 pm

gotenks794 wrote:
Kitsuner wrote:
CodeZTM wrote:Was there some kind of drama in the romance category I need to know about? :uhoh:
A lot of romance videos tend to have comedy in them. It's nothing new.
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Mine was entered as a romance video, but placed in comedy. Not that there's anything wrong with that... :awesome:

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Post by gotenks794 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:10 pm

There's a whole genre of Hollywood film called "Romantic Comedy" so maybe the AMV contest world should consider adopting it. Cuz just about every contest result thread has this argument.
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Post by Kitsuner » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:11 pm

gotenks794 wrote:
Kitsuner wrote:
CodeZTM wrote:Was there some kind of drama in the romance category I need to know about? :uhoh:
A lot of videos tend to fit in multiple categories. It's nothing new.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by joeFedraco » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:12 pm

I couldn't make it to overflow did any saw mine in it. it was rise of kira, fall of L by Fedraco Productions. just curious if it even played at all.

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