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Re: Anime Expo Anime Music Video Contest 2009 now open!

Post by DigitalPanther » Fri May 22, 2009 1:09 pm

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Not once did he correct me and said it wasn't because it was huffy. I also think that it is a bit unfair that I got a confirmation a week after the judging was over without given a chance to resubmit.
The please allow me to correct you now. Your video was NOT DQ'd because it was a huffy.
The issue appeared to be encoding errors which caused really bizarre video appearance. The only way to describe it without a screen shot would be to say it looked like Line art with massive smearing, desaturation, Hue shift mixed with a bad acid flashback.

Yours was not the only video to have this issue. There were two others. There were over 15 Huffy videos submitted (I am not going to go back and do an exact count). All but 3 of them (one of which was yours) played fine and did not have this issue.[edit for misytpe]

As I posted to you when you attempted to quote the possible resubmission rule back at me, The resubmission would have to have occurred and been in our possession BEFORE the ORIGINAL deadline as stated in the very section of the rules that you quoted to me in your email last night. By your own admission you sent it over night delivery on the day of the original deadline automatically making resubmission impossible.

This is one of the risks one takes when waiting till the last minute to submit their entry.

As I stated, I am genuinely sorry that there were issues with your video and I have offered you two possible resolutions. It is up to you which path you wish to go.

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Re: Anime Expo Anime Music Video Contest 2009 now open!

Post by Scintilla » Fri May 22, 2009 1:42 pm

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Kazemon15 wrote:Not once did he correct me and said it wasn't because it was huffy. I also think that it is a bit unfair that I got a confirmation a week after the judging was over without given a chance to resubmit.
The please allow me to correct you now. Your video was NOT DQ'd because it was a huffy.
The issue appeared to be encoding errors which caused really bizarre video appearance. The only way to describe it without a screen shot would be to say it looked like Line art with massive smearing, desaturation, Hue shift mixed with a bad acid flashback.
In the interest of this not happening to anyone else again: Kazemon15, you didn't encode it in the YV12 colorspace, did you? The official HuffYUV only ever supported RGB__ and YUY2.
Rider4Z wrote:personally, i don't see the reason for entering lossless videos to con in the first place. yeesss i understand you want your video played at the highest quality possible, but honestly when it's played ONE time onscreen and the only one who would notice the difference is you, is it really that important?
One? Anime Expo doesn't have multiple screenings of the contest? And besides, when the videos are up on such huge screens, someone's going to notice. MPEG-2 is a reasonable alternative, unless you know that the coordinator is going to transcode it to something else...

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Post by DigitalPanther » Fri May 22, 2009 2:22 pm

Scintilla wrote: One? Anime Expo doesn't have multiple screenings of the contest? And besides, when the videos are up on such huge screens, someone's going to notice. MPEG-2 is a reasonable alternative, unless you know that the coordinator is going to transcode it to something else...

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Actually, for the first time in a long time. I have convinced the Programmin peeps to give us a second screening. It took a bit of wrangling. :)
This is where we will announce the winners as well.

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Post by Castor Troy » Fri May 22, 2009 2:57 pm

Looks like I'm in the clear, thanks Michael! :)
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Post by Rider4Z » Fri May 22, 2009 2:59 pm

hey wow ^_^ a second screening! of all the videos or just the winners? :shock:

@scintilla - me personally speaking i don't think anyone's gonna notice because there won't be a lossless quality version for them to compare it too :| meh but i'm just digging a hole for myself now :book:

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Post by Kazemon15 » Fri May 22, 2009 3:49 pm

DigitalPanther wrote: The please allow me to correct you now. Your video was NOT DQ'd because it was a huffy.
The issue appeared to be encoding errors which caused really bizarre video appearance. The only way to describe it without a screen shot would be to say it looked like Line art with massive smearing, desaturation, Hue shift mixed with a bad acid flashback.
O_o

I checked those files personally. They were in crystal clear quality. Maybe you can provide me with a screenshot? I checked them on three different computers. I spent 2 whole days encoding and re-encoding just to make sure it was top notch. I had to resave them about 4 times so there were no rainbows or anything.
Scintilla wrote: In the interest of this not happening to anyone else again: Kazemon15, you didn't encode it in the YV12 colorspace, did you? The official HuffYUV only ever supported RGB__ and YUY2.
I didn't do any colorspace to it.
Here's a Screen of the original huffys file I sent:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/ ... 997387.png
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/ ... 999614.png

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Post by Rider4Z » Fri May 22, 2009 4:19 pm

maybe something happened when it was burned...?? :uhoh: did you check the files direct from the disk you sent in?

advice for the future (for everybody) i had two versions of one of my videos i sent in, xvid and x264 (i can't remember at the moment if i sent in both versions) BUT it'd be a good idea to send in back up versions in another format. i remember sending in a second (back-up) disk in the past. always a good idea to double up.

so in the future, include a back up disc with videos in another acceptable format. :amv:

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Post by Kazemon15 » Fri May 22, 2009 4:22 pm

Rider4Z wrote:maybe something happened when it was burned...?? :uhoh: did you check the files direct from the disk you sent in?

advice for the future (for everybody) i had two versions of one of my videos i sent in, xvid and x264 (i can't remember at the moment if i sent in both versions) BUT it'd be a good idea to send in back up versions in another format. i remember sending in a second (back-up) disk in the past. always a good idea to double up.

so in the future, include a back up disc with videos in another acceptable format. :amv:

Yes, I checked the disks on three different computers. (Editing computer, my laptop, friend's laptop) It just ran slow, due to the large filesize. But the quality was top notch and it was all there.

Milkmandan suggested that the disks could have been damaged in the mail. <<

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Post by Rider4Z » Fri May 22, 2009 5:04 pm

didn't think about that. that is so bizarre either way... :shock:

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Re: Anime Expo Anime Music Video Contest 2009 now open!

Post by DigitalPanther » Sat May 23, 2009 1:52 am

Kazemon15 wrote: O_o

I checked those files personally. They were in crystal clear quality. Maybe you can provide me with a screenshot? I checked them on three different computers. I spent 2 whole days encoding and re-encoding just to make sure it was top notch. I had to resave them about 4 times so there were no rainbows or anything.
If I can I will attempt to get you a screen shot to illustrate what I am referring to. However, my schedule is very very hectic at the moment as we are now 30 days from con and I do have my normal job as well. However, if I can I will attempt to get you a screen shot.

Either way. Unfortunately, the long and short of it is this. This year is a wash for your entry. As I have stated multiple times I am genuinely sorry for this. I can only report what happened.

The lateness of my sending you the notification would not have made a difference since you waited till the last day to send them in the first place. This made it so there would not have been a way within the rules to resubmit it. I am genuinely interested in seeing your video, but putting it in this years contest is out of the question at this point. I am sorry.

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