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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by DriftRoot » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:00 pm

jingoro wrote: I think, and yes, I am seriously considering your opinion, that making the contest exclusive to new content will diminish the value of the award in that respect. In that good videos couldn't compete for the sole reason that their creator would rather have their hard work exhibited in a variety of venues, rather than keep it under wraps.

Please remember that the end-product of this process, aside from your trophy, is an awards show for hundreds of AMV fans who might not have seen content at all these other conventions. They don't know a video was sent around for a year, they just know it was a good video, and are glad for the opportunity to see it on a huge screen with hundreds of their friends.

Please, enjoy the videos for what they are, not where they've been. Your audience does.
It is somewhat mindboggling to me (in a good way) how your stance on this summarizes many of the arguments made AGAINST telling editors who want to enter Anime Expo's competition that they should hide their videos away until after the con. :amv: :up:

That said, while I do not participate very heavily in competitions, AWA Pro has always first and foremost been associated (in my mind) with exclusivity and anonymity. That was not only the fun of it, that was a big part of the whole "judged by your peers, without the popularity contest factor" thing that made this contest (in theory) different and special. I haven't ever managed to make an AWA Pro video, but if I ever did, this is the kind of contest I'd like to enter, not one that's basically just like any other, except it's an odd mashup of online peer voting and con exposure.

It seems fairly clear that the intent of this contest needs to be made much clearer, with so much fuss this year going on about what's a new video and what's not. If AWA is A-OK with non-exclusive videos being entered into the Pro contest, then make that crystal clear, don't drop any verbage about encouraging people to treat it as an exclusive contest, if that's not what it turns out as. If you don't make it clear, then you're kind of putting the rules into the hands of the judges, who are entirely capable of making up their own rules if they don't like yours vague ones (i.e. boycotting non-exclusive videos).
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by l33tmeatwad » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:28 pm

As someone who had never heard of the competition before last year, I hadn't really caught the vibe until this year that a significant amount of people were interested in it being exclusive. Personally I just loved being part of the pro contest last year and enjoyed the feedback I got from other editors who probably wouldn't have watched my video otherwise (being a rather unknown editor). This is the main reason I wanted to compete again this year as well and I also look forward to next year too.

All I have to say about the exclusivity for next year now that most everyone has spoken up and the gauntlet has been thrown down is...
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by jingoro » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:59 am

SailorDeath wrote:hehe be patient :D site says it'll be up at midnight PST today :D
I failed. My life always seems to go critical in September.
We're down two directors in the VAT... anyone want to help next year?

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by SailorDeath » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:55 am

jingoro wrote:
SailorDeath wrote:hehe be patient :D site says it'll be up at midnight PST today :D
I failed. My life always seems to go critical in September.
We're down two directors in the VAT... anyone want to help next year?
Normally I'd jump at the opportunity, (actually I always thought about volunteering for awa) but at the same time, it probably means I cannot participate in pro/masters and I have way too much fun doing that and I'm not quite ready to give that up yet. That was always one of my biggest regrets with taking over acen was that I couldn't compete with others anymore.
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by SailorDeath » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:00 am

On another sidenote: would anyone on AWA staff object to me broadcasting the awards on ustream or other service for the folks who didn't get to go to awa to watch? I'd only publish the link on this thread as well as the IRC channel. We did a live cam at acen for the last couple of years I was there and it actually went over pretty well. I got a tablet with camera and mic so it should be easy to setup and run, and If I got lucky enough to get a seat in the front then I wouldn't have a problem pointin the camera at the MC and award recipients.
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:12 am

jingoro wrote:
SailorDeath wrote:hehe be patient :D site says it'll be up at midnight PST today :D
I failed. My life always seems to go critical in September.
We're down two directors in the VAT... anyone want to help next year?
Vlad's trained a number of people to at least be competant with the software and gerneral program flow at the very least if you need people to fill in at the tables this year.

Organization, planning, and personibility on the mic is another thing entirely though. :sweat:
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by ngsilver » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:52 am

jingoro wrote:
SailorDeath wrote:hehe be patient :D site says it'll be up at midnight PST today :D
I failed. My life always seems to go critical in September.
We're down two directors in the VAT... anyone want to help next year?
If AWA next year were to fall a few month earlier I could swing it. Right now with as close as it is to Youma I know I can't handle both. I'm behind on my Youma deadlines right now due to the time I took out to help out this year ^^()

But ya'll are welcome to use my system again next year if ya'll want. With proper planning time I could tailor it to better suit AWA's needs as well.
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by jingoro » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:52 am

SailorDeath wrote:
jingoro wrote:
SailorDeath wrote:hehe be patient :D site says it'll be up at midnight PST today :D
I failed. My life always seems to go critical in September.
We're down two directors in the VAT... anyone want to help next year?
Normally I'd jump at the opportunity, (actually I always thought about volunteering for awa) but at the same time, it probably means I cannot participate in pro/masters and I have way too much fun doing that and I'm not quite ready to give that up yet. That was always one of my biggest regrets with taking over acen was that I couldn't compete with others anymore.
Staff is welcome to participate in Pro (since it is peer-judged) and in Masters (since it is hard-blinded, so long as you aren't The Director of course).

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by Mr Pilkington » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:12 pm

Voting begins soon. My prediction:

Danger! Lowbrow Humor for Best Sentimental

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by Brakus » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:18 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:Voting begins soon. My prediction:

Danger! Lowbrow Humor for Best Sentimental
No way, Uncle Pro Project FTW! :)
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