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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by Warlike Cygnet » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:38 pm

EimiJ7 wrote:I'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but when I logged in to try to vote for categories and videos today everything that I voted for yesterday was gone and it's now not letting me vote for anything (or at least nothing is turning green).
The same thing is happening with me. I e-mailed Jingoro about it and despite the video number not turing green the votes are still going through. But I'm just going to e-mail all my nominations to him so that they can be recorded.

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by jingoro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:52 pm

Warlike Cygnet wrote:
EimiJ7 wrote:I'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but when I logged in to try to vote for categories and videos today everything that I voted for yesterday was gone and it's now not letting me vote for anything (or at least nothing is turning green).
The same thing is happening with me. I e-mailed Jingoro about it and despite the video number not turing green the votes are still going through. But I'm just going to e-mail all my nominations to him so that they can be recorded.
?!!! I'm looking at it again now. I've been completely unable to reproduce this error, but now it is two people. :-(

IF this happens to you, please send me an email (jingoro@jingoro.net) with your selections, so that I can record them in case I can't solve this mystery in time.

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by Shin-AMV » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:11 pm

With regards to the category nomination right now and how the awards will go out, will a video be able to win only one category or multiple categories? Cause as it stands right now there are a few category suggestions that would just overlap like crazy and essentially be the same pool of videos and it doesn't make sense to create a bunch of similar categories to potentially just award them all to the same handful of videos.

But if there is like some stipulation where if one video won two or more categories, it takes one of them instead, and the other categories can go to the runner up instead etc etc. Overall it would help to spread the love around I'd be more inclined to vote for some of these other categories that are close to being functionally identical. Otherwise it just seems like a lot of unnecessary redundancy.
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Shin-AMV wrote:With regards to the category nomination right now and how the awards will go out, will a video be able to win only one category or multiple categories? Cause as it stands right now there are a few category suggestions that would just overlap like crazy and essentially be the same pool of videos and it doesn't make sense to create a bunch of similar categories to potentially just award them all to the same handful of videos.

But if there is like some stipulation where if one video won two or more categories, it takes one of them instead, and the other categories can go to the runner up instead etc etc. Overall it would help to spread the love around I'd be more inclined to vote for some of these other categories that are close to being functionally identical. Otherwise it just seems like a lot of unnecessary redundancy.
Since the category nominations and the video nominations are all 1 step, you kinda have to vote for everything because you don't know which categories will make it forward and which videos will make it forward in those categories. It's a necessary evil because of how the rounds got combined. If you pick 1 category of 2 that look the same and only vote in that and everyone else picks the other one, you just, effectively, lost all of your votes.
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by Shin-AMV » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:25 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Shin-AMV wrote:With regards to the category nomination right now and how the awards will go out, will a video be able to win only one category or multiple categories? Cause as it stands right now there are a few category suggestions that would just overlap like crazy and essentially be the same pool of videos and it doesn't make sense to create a bunch of similar categories to potentially just award them all to the same handful of videos.

But if there is like some stipulation where if one video won two or more categories, it takes one of them instead, and the other categories can go to the runner up instead etc etc. Overall it would help to spread the love around I'd be more inclined to vote for some of these other categories that are close to being functionally identical. Otherwise it just seems like a lot of unnecessary redundancy.
Since the category nominations and the video nominations are all 1 step, you kinda have to vote for everything because you don't know which categories will make it forward and which videos will make it forward in those categories. It's a necessary evil because of how the rounds got combined. If you pick 1 category of 2 that look the same and only vote in that and everyone else picks the other one, you just, effectively, lost all of your votes.
Good point. But I still think it'd be good to spread things around rather than just letting a handful of videos potentially win everything (but I think all contests should have that rule/policy anyways) Right now it can go down where Best in Show/Drama/Sentimental/Emotional/Romance (plus all the technical/editing/artistic/etc) type awards could go to just one or two videos, not saying thats its a guarantee that something like that will happen, but it can definately make a contest really boring. (for other contestants and the audience at least, can't deny that its super exciting and fun for the winner lol)
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:46 pm

Shin-AMV wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Shin-AMV wrote:With regards to the category nomination right now and how the awards will go out, will a video be able to win only one category or multiple categories? Cause as it stands right now there are a few category suggestions that would just overlap like crazy and essentially be the same pool of videos and it doesn't make sense to create a bunch of similar categories to potentially just award them all to the same handful of videos.

But if there is like some stipulation where if one video won two or more categories, it takes one of them instead, and the other categories can go to the runner up instead etc etc. Overall it would help to spread the love around I'd be more inclined to vote for some of these other categories that are close to being functionally identical. Otherwise it just seems like a lot of unnecessary redundancy.
Since the category nominations and the video nominations are all 1 step, you kinda have to vote for everything because you don't know which categories will make it forward and which videos will make it forward in those categories. It's a necessary evil because of how the rounds got combined. If you pick 1 category of 2 that look the same and only vote in that and everyone else picks the other one, you just, effectively, lost all of your votes.
Good point. But I still think it'd be good to spread things around rather than just letting a handful of videos potentially win everything (but I think all contests should have that rule/policy anyways) Right now it can go down where Best in Show/Drama/Sentimental/Emotional/Romance (plus all the technical/editing/artistic/etc) type awards could go to just one or two videos, not saying thats its a guarantee that something like that will happen, but it can definately make a contest really boring. (for other contestants and the audience at least, can't deny that its super exciting and fun for the winner lol)
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by Warlike Swans » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:48 pm

Shin-AMV wrote: Good point. But I still think it'd be good to spread things around rather than just letting a handful of videos potentially win everything (but I think all contests should have that rule/policy anyways) Right now it can go down where Best in Show/Drama/Sentimental/Emotional/Romance (plus all the technical/editing/artistic/etc) type awards could go to just one or two videos, not saying thats its a guarantee that something like that will happen, but it can definately make a contest really boring. (for other contestants and the audience at least, can't deny that its super exciting and fun for the winner lol)
I support limiting the number of awards to 1 per video. It keeps things more interesting.

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by SailorDeath » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:52 pm

Can anyone remember if video won multiple awards before? I can't exactly say I remember any doing that.
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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by jingoro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:55 pm

Shin-AMV wrote:Good point. But I still think it'd be good to spread things around rather than just letting a handful of videos potentially win everything (but I think all contests should have that rule/policy anyways) Right now it can go down where Best in Show/Drama/Sentimental/Emotional/Romance (plus all the technical/editing/artistic/etc) type awards could go to just one or two videos, not saying thats its a guarantee that something like that will happen, but it can definately make a contest really boring. (for other contestants and the audience at least, can't deny that its super exciting and fun for the winner lol)
If it helps, I can tell you the following:
1) I approved several categories today. Everything from the top until the Derpy Hooves award WILL be awarded.
2) I ordered trophies today. There will be at most 15 trophies in Pro.
3) That means no more than 3 other categories will be approved.

Please nominate into each category as if it were the only category in all pro... based on how you feel videos qualify against the description of that category and its title. In this phase, please vote for EVERY video that you would be pleased to see as a FINALIST in that category. I look for the top videos, by count of nomination, in each category to move on to the final vote.

Categories that don't have enough competition may be dropped in favor of those that do.

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Re: AWA pro thoughts/followups?

Post by jingoro » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:56 pm

SailorDeath wrote:Can anyone remember if video won multiple awards before? I can't exactly say I remember any doing that.
Yes. This has happened.
The rules allow one video to win in any number of categories.

It is far from impossible, but it has been rare.

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