Anime LA

[Raynovac]

what ever happened to entering for fun.

usually its better to help someone and inform them of, what is believed to be correct procedures, instead of being critical. why not help so you can make the contest better. with out contest after all, how would we showcase?

That is why he ask for any of those willing to educate him is welcome.

if you have any questions dynamicperfomance, you know my email.

[jbone]

what ever happened to entering for fun.

usually its better to help someone and inform them of, what is believed to be correct procedures, instead of being critical. why not help so you can make the contest better. with out contest after all, how would we showcase?

That is why he ask for any of those willing to educate him is welcome.

if you have any questions dynamicperfomance, you know my email.

Someone who himself speeks in broken sentences (half of which I barely understand) is not the person to go to for advice.

And it's not fun when the contest coordinator doesn't know what he or she is doing.

[DynamicPerformance]

Man, jbone, your vicious.
if you can't understand ray, your gonna have ALOT of problems with people out in the real world. Very few people speak good english. Especially in Southern-California.
in response to:

So, you're telling us here that we're supposed to use a format that the rules say we're not supposed to be using?

I say:

Recommended Formats for AMV submission are as follows

burn!

If your AMV runs in a different format than those recommended, please also include any necessary codecs, players and important instructions or we will likely be unable to play your AMV in the contest.

double burn!


As my friend Travinator said on a diff forum:

If you're going to correct every one of Dynamicman's typos, you're going to be _very_ busy, Zer...

Online posts are not essays! I'm sorry if I can't take the time to write right english I am in college, and midterms and deadlines control my schedule. I'm a volunteer, just like the rest of the staff, and we're not getting payed. Which means, when my boss at work tells me to do something, I can't say: But I have to do some work for Anime-LA.
I'd get fired so fast! So i'll fit it in somehow.

We need everyone's help to make this work. So please, submit video's.

the point of "No videos over 100mb" is to keep my server open for class e-mails. if you fill up my server with a gigantic attatchment, and I miss a TBA test date, I WILL fry your bios!

A 6-minute high-quality MPEG-2 could be as big as 500 MB.

I believe a 6-minute HuffYUV AVI would probably be 2 or 3 GB.

If u need help making your movie smaller, I DO understand compression.
try reducing the dimensions of the output file. Find the point where quality + size is best. Also, you can zip/rar/tarball the file to make it fit. Or try divx as a codec.

(I'm talking rough estimates here since I've never made a 6-minute video.)

I have never either, I try to make my movies 3-4 minutes, fairly short, to the point, and it keeps the AMV from becomming repititious.

So if we could burn to CD or DVD and submit that way, that would be much appreciated.

Sure thing, the site will soon be updated with a snail mail address you can send it to. However, as with my e-mail, IT CAN BECOME OVERFILLED. After that, my dorm tosses mail. and most mail arrives here on monday, so... e-mail me first.

Thank you all,
Mikal Saltveit
Dynamicman out...

P.S.

speeks

should be "speaks"
ROFLCOPTER LOLERSKATES

[DynamicPerformance]

I'd go if it wasn't a week after Ushicon...

Would Anime LA be interested in showing multieditor projects as well?

multieditor is?
Many people edited it? of course, that falls under "group"

what exactly do you mean?

Dynamicman out...

[dokool]

the point of "No videos over 100mb" is to keep my server open for class e-mails. if you fill up my server with a gigantic attatchment, and I miss a TBA test date, I WILL fry your bios!

A 6-minute high-quality MPEG-2 could be as big as 500 MB.

I believe a 6-minute HuffYUV AVI would probably be 2 or 3 GB.

If u need help making your movie smaller, I DO understand compression.
try reducing the dimensions of the output file. Find the point where quality + size is best. Also, you can zip/rar/tarball the file to make it fit. Or try divx as a codec.

Obviously you don't understand compression if you're limiting entry sizes to 100mb. If people make the file smaller than 100MB, then you'll have lots of trouble converting it into a format suitable for the contest.

In addition, *nobody* emails huge files. I don't think I've ever emailed something larger than an mp3, and that was YEARS ago.

A contest run more incompetently than Otakon, who would have imagined...

[DynamicPerformance]

Response:

Obviously you don't understand compression if you're limiting entry sizes to 100mb. If people make the file smaller than 100MB, then you'll have lots of trouble converting it into a format suitable for the contest.

I limited e-mail submissions to 100mb, not snail mail submissions.
All snail mail submiters should contact me by e-mail to find out the address and contact information.

In addition, *nobody* emails huge files. I don't think I've ever emailed something larger than an mp3, and that was YEARS ago.

As you said, that was years ago. My proffessors now ROUTINELY e-mail me whole programming projects. And since I am dealing with graphics and games, these projects can be up to 500mb in total uncompressed size. Also, my servers HAVE crashed in the past year due to overload of files, OR they have missed out on e-mails and files due to being filled. I'm playing it safe. Would you rather your submission was lost in cyberspace?

A contest run more incompetently than Otakon, who would have imagined...

I have never attended Otakon (living as I do in California and not seeing there reason b/c we have so many great cons here) but this IS our first year. If you want to help out, volunteer. If you want to critisize, fine. But at least have the decency to offer constructive critisize of our practices. Unlike Anime-Expo, we are small enough that we should be able to cater to specific interests. But you still have to ask!

Thank you again.
Mikal Saltveit
Dynamicman out...

P.S. BTW your video is only 28.2 MiB. We don't have a small room, but its not HUGE like the one at Anime-Expo, so we don't need super-hiquality video's! I'm gonna test it out soon, and we'll see what we need.

[dokool]

If you want to critisize, fine. But at least have the decency to offer constructive critisize of our practices. Unlike Anime-Expo, we are small enough that we should be able to cater to specific interests. But you still have to ask!

But AX runs a good contest (at least, from what I've heard).

Here's some constructive criticism:

-Nobody is going to want to submit by email, as you can tell from the fact that nobody on this thread has ever heard of that being used before and everyone seems to agree that a 100mb limit is a stupid idea. Make an FTP server.

-Limit the allowed codecs to prevent problems. If you don't, you're going to get people sending you everything from HuffYUV to DivX to WMV. This will have the added bonus of making some vids look really good, and some vids look really bad. Anime Boston is limiting digital submissions to MPEG2 this year (it's their first year taking digital submissions), that's something you could consider.

-If it's your first time running a contest, and editors are complaining, it's more than likely for a good reason, and you should heed any advice/criticism (no matter what form it comes in) that you get. We don't want you to not run a contest, but if you're running it in a totally half-assed matter then you'll sure as hell know about it.

P.S. BTW your video is only 28.2 MiB. We don't have a small room, but its not HUGE like the one at Anime-Expo, so we don't need super-hiquality video's! I'm gonna test it out soon, and we'll see what we need.

And... you're an idiot. Just because I advertise a video in my SIG doesn't mean I want to submit it to your con, and just because it's 28.2MB on the 'Org for the distribution version doesn't mean that's the version I'd send to you.

It's a moot point, anyway. 'Come What May' is retired and I'd never send to Anime LA in the first place.

[Scintilla]

As my friend Travinator said on a diff forum:

If you're going to correct every one of Dynamicman's typos, you're going to be _very_ busy, Zer...

Online posts are not essays! I'm sorry if I can't take the time to write right english I am in college, and midterms and deadlines control my schedule. I'm a volunteer, just like the rest of the staff, and we're not getting payed. Which means, when my boss at work tells me to do something, I can't say: But I have to do some work for Anime-LA.
I'd get fired so fast! So i'll fit it in somehow.

Even though "online posts are not essays", your grammar, spelling, etc. still go a long way towards shaping people's impressions of you in an online forum like this one. For someone with an important position like AMV contest coordinator, it's important to come across as professional and competent in order to build confidence among those who may be considering contributing.

A 6-minute high-quality MPEG-2 could be as big as 500 MB.

I believe a 6-minute HuffYUV AVI would probably be 2 or 3 GB.

If u need help making your movie smaller, I DO understand compression.
try reducing the dimensions of the output file. Find the point where quality + size is best. Also, you can zip/rar/tarball the file to make it fit. Or try divx as a codec.

You might want to advise people that reducing the resolution and using distribution codecs like DivX will, in all probability, make the video quality look <i>noticeably</i> lacking on the big screen (especially if you're going to convert everything to MPEG-2 for playback like many cons do -- are you?), and that they should just pay the postage and snail mail their submissions in uncompressed, HuffYUV, or MPEG-2 if they want their videos to look the best.

You also mentioned the possibility of FTP submission. If you could get that up and running, I think you'd find that a lot more people would be willing to submit their videos, as this makes it easy to get the videos to you without the problems of e-mail and without the cost of snail mail.

[Solaria735]

I agree. This seems iffy. I was asked to enter by one of the people running the contest after he saw a sig advertising my video in another forum. But it just seems like it would be impossible to make it look good, considering the DivX version alone is around 60 MB. MPEG-2 is going to be huge. It just seems to be looking more and more unprofessional and is really discouraging me (and other editors, it sounds like) from entering. There is no way I can email a file that size, and the lack of a snail mail address (what is this "write to me" stuff? It's a small con, so there won't be a ton of entries to fill up the mailbox.) is far from professional.

[DynamicPerformance]

But AX runs a good contest (at least, from what I've heard).

I wasn't talking about the contest. I was talking about the con.

Nobody is going to want to submit by email

I didn't say they had to. Contact is by e-mail because we are still small.

Make an FTP server.

Heh, I would, if it wouldn't cost me money. I'm at college here. And snail mail will work fine.

Limit the allowed codecs to prevent problems. If you don't, you're going to get people sending you everything from HuffYUV to DivX to WMV. This will have the added bonus of making some vids look really good, and some vids look really bad. Anime Boston is limiting digital submissions to MPEG2 this year (it's their first year taking digital submissions), that's something you could consider.

That is a good idea, but I want to accept everyone this first year, and when we get more submissions, i'll see if we need people to change formats. I want to allow as many people to participate as possible.

If it's your first time running a contest, and editors are complaining, it's more than likely for a good reason, and you should heed any advice/criticism (no matter what form it comes in) that you get. We don't want you to not run a contest, but if you're running it in a totally half-assed matter then you'll sure as hell know about it.

Its that attitude "half-assed" that makes me not want to listen to "critisizm"

And... you're an idiot. Just because I advertise a video in my SIG doesn't mean I want to submit it to your con, and just because it's 28.2MB on the 'Org for the distribution version doesn't mean that's the version I'd send to you.

if your not submiting, I guess you have no reason to post anymore.

Thanks again
Mikal Saltveit
Dynamicman out...