Pro vs. older versions?

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:25 pm

SQ wrote:Oh, and how is the export feature broken? Any more broken than Premiere 6.x, where you had to pull it through Vdub anyway?

Pretty much any codec that doesn't come standard with windows will give you borked output. So basically you can't use huffyuv or lagarith. Your only export options are really either uncompressed or the debugmode frameserver.
When I say broken, that can mean anything from garbage appearing around the top or bottom of the frame, frames being encoded in the wrong order, or the output file being corrupt.

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:13 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
SQ wrote:Oh, and how is the export feature broken? Any more broken than Premiere 6.x, where you had to pull it through Vdub anyway?
Pretty much any codec that doesn't come standard with windows will give you borked output. So basically you can't use huffyuv or lagarith. Your only export options are really either uncompressed or the debugmode frameserver.
When I say broken, that can mean anything from garbage appearing around the top or bottom of the frame, frames being encoded in the wrong order, or the output file being corrupt.

dont forget your amv hell CE output... that was the most awsome display of, reasons to stay away from pro, that i've ever seen!

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:25 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
SQ wrote:Oh, and how is the export feature broken? Any more broken than Premiere 6.x, where you had to pull it through Vdub anyway?
Pretty much any codec that doesn't come standard with windows will give you borked output. So basically you can't use huffyuv or lagarith. Your only export options are really either uncompressed or the debugmode frameserver.
When I say broken, that can mean anything from garbage appearing around the top or bottom of the frame, frames being encoded in the wrong order, or the output file being corrupt.

... What? I've exported HuffYUV files from Premiere Pro many times without problems like that occurring.

The only problems I have are when the export just stops before it's done and the ETA runs down to zero and when I cancel the program freezes, but those can almost always be solved by CHECKING "Optimize stills".

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:08 pm

Scintilla wrote:... What? I've exported HuffYUV files from Premiere Pro many times without problems like that occurring.

Well I dunno, It happens to me every time, on every version of premiere pro, tried all the codec settings, and a number of other people have told me the same thing :\

dowhatnow · Post by **dowhatnow** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:29 am

I'm kinda curious myself as to whether the upgrade to Pro and the addition of the latest After Effects is worth the money/time involved. In any case, I don't have enough money for either one by themselves, let alone both.

A little off topic, but I'm wondering if there's any way I could get the Audio/Visual effects of Pro into 6.0.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:54 pm

jonnkakarotto wrote:A little off topic, but I'm wondering if there's any way I could get the Audio/Visual effects of Pro into 6.0.

Premiere Pro is a completely new editing application that adobe built from scratch. You cant put anything from it back into an older premiere.

dowhatnow · Post by **dowhatnow** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:54 pm

Sigh. I think I'll wait to upgrade to Pro. Maybe in the future they'll have most of the bugs that I'm hearing so much about worked out.

Sereenie · Post by **Sereenie** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:46 pm

This thread may be getting a bit old, but I figured it was more relevant to post my question here.

After a very painful day of troubleshooting and looking for answers online, I have come to the conclusion that my beloved copy of 6.5 can't be installed on my brand new 64-bit system... only because of its installer! How silly is that? But as far as I could see, it's a known problem, and I have few options–if any–besides upgrading.

Which I didn't intend to do yet. I love 6.5. Simple, efficient, reliable. This thread was quite enlightening about the pros and cons of the more recent versions compared to older versions, but I am still not clear about the main differences between Pro 1.5 and Pro 2.0 as compared to each other.

Has anyone used both more extensively than just their tutorials? What's your take on it? Just how much of a hassle is that exporting problem?

Any info will be much appreciated.

Thanks!

S.

Sereenie · Post by **Sereenie** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:58 pm

OK, forget my previous question: I figured since I *had* to upgrade anyway, I might as well go all out and get 2.0; this way, I won't need to upgrade again for quite a while. One problem solved! Though I still mourn 6.5... *sigh*

But one thing I haven't been able to confirm: how is the incorrect framerate problem going in this new version? I know it was there at least until 1.5, but has it finally been solved for good in 2.0?

It's not a problem at all if I still need to go the AssumeFPS way, but if it's unnecessary, I'll be glad to drop it!

Thanks again!

S.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:16 pm

I think framerates are working pretty much normally most or all of the time in premiere now.