VDM Telecide Help?

[Purple Harlequin]

Okay, so I've finally made it to VirtualDubMod and it turns out that I've got the worst file ever:
When I checked in AVISynth, it was marked as progressive; but when I check the field order in VDM, it turns out to be Bottom Field First.
Is that good? I recall reading on one of the how-to guides that it was a disadvantage.

So I use Telecide (Bear in mind that I don't have a clue whether my file is PAL or NTSC or whatever) and whenever I try to check it works in VDM, the same thing keeps coming up:

Telecide: YUY2 or YV12 data only.

So here's my present script:

mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos\AMV\Bvd2.d2v")
LanczosResize(640,480)
ConvertToRGB32()
ComplementParity()
Telecide(order=0)
Decimate(cycle=5,mode=3,threshold=1.0)

Jeez this stuff makes my head hurt. Help, please?

[Kariudo]

unless complementparity() needs rgb data I would suggest ommiting the converttorgb32()

if it does need rgb data, then before you use telecide you should switch the colorspace back to yv12 by adding converttoyv12()

I've never had to deal with footage like that, so I won't say anything else about it.

as for NTSC or PAL, this wikipedia page has a map that shows which countries/regions use which video standard

[Willen]

mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos\AMV\Bvd2.d2v")
LanczosResize(640,480)
ConvertToRGB32()
ComplementParity()
Telecide(order=0)
Decimate(cycle=5,mode=3,threshold=1.0)

Resizing should almost always be done at the very end of the chain.

If you've read EADFAG, there's a section that deals with using DGIndex to create the d2v files: Getting Your Video - Making DGIndex Project Files. You can check the box that pops up when you press F5 to see what the video properties are. There should be a Video Type field that will tell you if the footage is NTSC or PAL (or FILM). In addition, if you look at the Frame Size, it will say either 720x480 for NTSC or 720x576 if it is PAL.

As for field order, this page should hopefully be of some help: Analysing Your DVD Footage - Checking the Field Order.

Then if you want to edit with progressive footage, read this: Making Your Footage Progressive, and don't forget Dealing with Aspect Ratios. (Remember the DGIndex properties? It should also tell you if the footage is 4:3 or 16:9.)

[Purple Harlequin]

Okay, so now the error has disappeared and there are no more scan lines. (Thanks so much! )
But when do I convert the file to AVI?
I just tried and my computer crashed... so I guess there's more to do?

My script now looks like this:

mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos\AMV\Bvd2.d2v")
ConvertToYV12()
ComplementParity()
Telecide(order=0, guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5,mode=2)
LanczosResize(640,480)

[Kariudo]

when in vdubmod, go to video, compression, and then select the codec of your choice.
then go to file, save as, name your file and press save.

depending on your computer, your avisynth script, and how much video is being saved as avi it can take a while

[Purple Harlequin]

when in vdubmod, go to video, compression, and then select the codec of your choice.
then go to file, save as, name your file and press save.

What is the difference between the codecs listed?

[Kariudo]

I don't know for most of them, but if you are looking to edit with this footage I suggest a lossless codec such as lagarith or huffyuv (beware, lossless means no quality loss but large filesize. Lagarith is a little more resource intensive but produces smaller files than huffyuv)

another option is to use an MJPEG codec (which you may or may not have)

whatever you do, do not choose divx or xvid

links:
huffyuv
lagarith

[Purple Harlequin]

Okay, I'm saving it now. Hopefully I won't hit another brick wall...

Once the AVI is made, can I delete all the VOB, D2V and AC3 files?

[Kariudo]

I usually keep the vobs and d2vs around until I finish the amv, but if you have an avi file of the same footage then it should be safe to delete those.

AC3 is the dvd audio, which in most cases you can get rid of right away

[Purple Harlequin]

Okay thanks.

And what is the usual size for an hour-long AVI? Mine's not even half way and it's already 5GB...
O___O