Artifacts in Anime/Toon Footage

[mirkosp]

I personally did not have this issue before. Well, I do with utvideo, but seeing as it's a lossless meant for editing and not for playback I don't really care.
As for how to solve it, I already said before what I thought would be the cause of the issue, but since it did not help, I don't really know what would be the exact thing causing the problem and how to fix it.

[Anno-san]

Aha. I opened this script

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Dgdecode_mpeg2source("C:\Users\?\dvd rip\Ed, Edd n Eddy\Ed Edd n Eddy Episode 2.d2v", cpu=6, info=3)
Colormatrix(hints=true, dest=2, interlaced=false)
frfun7(1.6,12,4)
fluxsmootht(7)
loadplugin("C:\program files (x86)\avisynth 2.5\plugins\removegrain.dll")
limitedsharpenfaster(ss_x=1.0,ss_y=1.0,soft=24)

In VirtualDub and there were NO jagged edges. That narrows it down to MPC-HC.

[mirkosp]

Wait a second...
Do you get the subsampling in MPC-HC from the avs script or from the final x264 encode? 'Cause if the final x264 encode is fine, that's all it matters, really.

[Anno-san]

I didn't encode it yet. Although, I encoded a Berserk interview with the same subsampling issue and it was visible in the encoded X264 MKV file. Perhaps there is some setting I could change in FFDShow to eliminate the subsampling in MPC-HC's playback?

[Anno-san]

The Ed Edd N Eddy video has the subsampling when viewing the AVS and I assume it would in the encoded file too because the Berserk interview did.

[mirkosp]

But you said you don't have the issue when viewing the avs in vdub, right? Then, load the avs in x264, encode, and see for yourself if you have the issue in mpc-hc. Also, do keep in mind that the subsampling that you can notice in ed edd & eddy is different from the lack of bitrate that berserk has... if you're referring to that.

[Anno-san]

But you said you don't have the issue when viewing the avs in vdub, right? Then, load the avs in x264, encode, and see for yourself if you have the issue in mpc-hc.

I use MeGUI. I assume you mean that I could look in the video preview window in MeGUI after I load the script and check if the jaggies are visible there as well. If they were, what would that mean?

Also, do keep in mind that the subsampling that you can notice in ed edd & eddy is different from the lack of bitrate that berserk has... if you're referring to that.

I do notice that the noise etc. and chroma jaggies are apparent in the source VOB of that video. That's a separate issue though and I will post there later. About that thread though, could you or another admin edit the title and OP post of it if I pm the changes to you?

[Anno-san]

But you said you don't have the issue when viewing the avs in vdub, right? Then, load the avs in x264, encode, and see for yourself if you have the issue in mpc-hc.

I use MeGUI. I assume you mean that I could look in the video preview window in MeGUI after I load the script and check if the jaggies are visible there as well. If they were, what would that mean?

Also, do keep in mind that the subsampling that you can notice in ed edd & eddy is different from the lack of bitrate that berserk has... if you're referring to that.

I do notice that the noise etc. and chroma jaggies are apparent in the source VOB of that video. That's a separate issue though and I will post there later. About that thread though, could you or another admin edit the title and OP post of it if I pm the changes to you?

[mirkosp]

But you said you don't have the issue when viewing the avs in vdub, right? Then, load the avs in x264, encode, and see for yourself if you have the issue in mpc-hc.

I use MeGUI. I assume you mean that I could look in the video preview window in MeGUI after I load the script and check if the jaggies are visible there as well. If they were, what would that mean?

No, you'd have to actually encode and just check the encode. You can't really know how a frame would look before actually encoding it.

Also, do keep in mind that the subsampling that you can notice in ed edd & eddy is different from the lack of bitrate that berserk has... if you're referring to that.

I do notice that the noise etc. and chroma jaggies are apparent in the source VOB of that video. That's a separate issue though and I will post there later. About that thread though, could you or another admin edit the title and OP post of it if I pm the changes to you?

I don't think editing the title/first post is really needed...

[Anno-san]

I don't think editing the title/first post is really needed...

The title says "Deinterlacing problem" when that's not the main issue; the main issue with the Berserk trailer is the noise/grain, chroma jaggies and apparently bitrate. The title about deinterlacing seems far too specific seeing how many other problems there are. Could I just make a new thread?