So I'm running into problems...

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So I'm running into problems...

Post by Lord Rae » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:56 pm

I'm trying to edit a video using ripped footage as opposed to capturing as I've ALWAYS done before.

So I'm running into a few snags in getting my footage prepped for editing. I'm following the guide hoping I'm reading it right and not screwing anything up by reading anything outdated... But I've got a couple questions and no easy or fast way to pose the questions to anyone other than here.

I ripped my footage and have created my DGIndex files... but when compiling my AVS script on it I ran into a few inconsistencies. For one when I first looked at the footage in DGIndex it said it was NTSC and interlaced. But then I realized it only did that for the opening animation of the company that did the dvds. Then it switches to Film and Progressive. But when looking at the footage in a preview it LOOKS interlaced. Does DGIndex screw up often? Has it ever led you astray? Or is it actually whatever the hell DGIndex says it is?

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So am I over thinking this? Is it really just as the program says it is? Or is it lying to me? The dvds are the two Karas discs.

I was thinking (if it was interlaced) to go with this so far...
MPEG2Source("E:\DGIndexFiles\VTS_01_1.d2v")
Telecide(order=1,guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5, mode=2)
LanczosResize(848,480)
Is that even remotely correct or do I need to start all over with the guide?

I've been editing for almost 10 years so I hate feeling like a newb... so I apologize if I was newbish or preemptively cautious with any of this.

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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Scintilla » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:57 pm

It looks interlaced because it's previewing it as if it was to be played back at 29.97 interlaced, but if it looks like the ORIGINAL FOOTAGE was progressive and has merely gone through a telecine process to get to 29.97, then it'll say progressive/film.

If it's reported as close to 100% FILM, then you can select the Force FILM option, which will index it as 23.976 progressive instead... but usually you can only get away with this if the disk actually was encoded as 23.976 progressive (with the 3:2 pulldown upon playback flag set). Examples include the Japanese R2 NGE Renewal discs; I THINK the OMG! movie R1 may have been the same way?
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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Lord Rae » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:12 pm

Sorry again for my stupid questions but I've gotta ask them. ;p

It doesn't say any % next to the Film like in the picture... Is there a place I can find the percentage of the footage that is actually film?

Also is there anywhere I can see if it has the 3:2 pulldown flag set? It doesn't jump out at me but I'm maybe just looking past it?

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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Lord Rae » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:17 pm

Doh nevermind... it wasn't showing up when I hit play but if I hit preview instead it finally gave me a percentage. It seems steady around 89-91%.

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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Lord Rae » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:57 pm

Rawr... no edit button.

Its Film 97% after I let it go a while. So I saw lots of references to force film but nothing on how to actually use it. Uh so it is a command? Is it an option in a menu somewhere?

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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Scintilla » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:20 pm

Should be an option in the Video menu, under "Field operation ->".
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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Qyot27 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:37 pm

While using Forced Film negates the need for this, TFM and TDecimate are the preferred IVTC method now. They're part of the TIVTC package, which is included in the beta AMVapp or you can just grab it straight from tritical's site.
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Re: So I'm running into problems...

Post by Lord Rae » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:50 pm

Scintilla wrote:Should be an option in the Video menu, under "Field operation ->".
Ah crap... thank you. I never would have found it and it was right in plain sight.

Thanks.

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