Kiminozo Deinterlacing

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Kiminozo Deinterlacing

Post by LittleAtari » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:01 am

This is my first time working with DVD footage. I've downloaded the AMVapp and have been following Vicbond's guide but I am getting a little lost.

This is my code:

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MPEG2source("F:\RUMBLING_HEARTS_VOL01\VIDEO_TS\Rumbling_Hearts_Vol1_A1_EP1-5.d2v")
Crop(4, 0, -4, -0)
LanczosResize(640, 480)
Deen("a2d",2)
VmToon()
FieldDeinterlace(chroma=true)
I've managed to improve it a little from what I found in this thread, but I'm still getting some parts looking like this:

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and then there's some rigid outlines here:
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Also, I'm using the R1 DVDs.

So, please help me out and thanks in advance.

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Post by AaronAMV » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:04 am

Well I'm not really the best person to be talking and helping on this subject, but correct me if I'm wrong, that the crop and lanczosresize are supposed to be after the deinterlacer. Yeah, you have all the sharpeners and stuff before the deinterlacer when it should be after. I'm not sure if it'll make a difference but it's worth a shot right?

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Post by LittleAtari » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:13 am

Yea, I just tried that. Unfortunately, it didnt make a difference.

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Post by AaronAMV » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:18 am

Try reading through this. That's where I learned to deinterlace and filter footage.

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Post by LittleAtari » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:18 am

alright I think I got it. I looked over the guides again and somethings clicked. Everything looks fine. This is my final code:

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MPEG2source("F:\RUMBLING_HEARTS_VOL01\VIDEO_TS\Rumbling_Hearts_Vol1_A1_EP1-5.d2v")
Telecide(order=1)
FieldDeinterlace(chroma=true)
Deen("a2d",2)
VmToon()
Crop(4, 0, -4, -0)
LanczosResize(640, 480)
In the end, I did end up putting the FieldDeinterlace before first, but it was the Telecide that needed to be first because it actually did make a difference like you said. Thanks a bunch.

One last thing though, I'm not sure if I'm being overly picky or if this the way it should be:

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The outlines arent 100% perfect. I wasnt sure if that was just the way it was animated or if I may be missing something. When I played the DVD in windows media player, it looked similar, however, the DVD, in general, seems to have a slightly lower quality in wmp.[/code]

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Post by AaronAMV » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:46 am

Well first, I always play my DVDs in the VLC Player. Secondly, it looks pretty good. Maybe some undot(), or temporalcleaner(), but like I said before, I'm not really the best to help someone.

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Post by Scintilla » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:23 am

LittleAtari wrote:alright I think I got it. I looked over the guides again and somethings clicked. Everything looks fine. This is my final code:

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MPEG2source("F:\RUMBLING_HEARTS_VOL01\VIDEO_TS\Rumbling_Hearts_Vol1_A1_EP1-5.d2v")
Telecide(order=1)
FieldDeinterlace(chroma=true)
Deen("a2d",2)
VmToon()
Crop(4, 0, -4, -0)
LanczosResize(640, 480)
In the end, I did end up putting the FieldDeinterlace before first, but it was the Telecide that needed to be first because it actually did make a difference like you said. Thanks a bunch.

One last thing though, I'm not sure if I'm being overly picky or if this the way it should be:

Image

The outlines arent 100% perfect. I wasnt sure if that was just the way it was animated or if I may be missing something. When I played the DVD in windows media player, it looked similar, however, the DVD, in general, seems to have a slightly lower quality in wmp.[/code]
The only thing I notice wrong with that image is some ever-so-slight aliasing in the edges. The usual way of fixing that is to increase the supersampling factors in vmToon (<b>ssw</b> and <b>ssh</b>); they're both set to 4 by default. The obvious problem with this is that it will make the filter run even more slowly than it did before.
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Post by leahzero » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:25 pm

Scintilla wrote:The only thing I notice wrong with that image is some ever-so-slight aliasing in the edges. The usual way of fixing that is to increase the supersampling factors in vmToon (<b>ssw</b> and <b>ssh</b>); they're both set to 4 by default. The obvious problem with this is that it will make the filter run even more slowly than it did before.
vmToon is really, really slow. I have a good machine (Q9450, 4G RAM, 8800GT etc.) and it took almost 4 hours to process a 23ish-minute episode with no other filtering. Since the aliasing is so subtle, I would not recommend using it to smooth edges except on very short clips you plan to use as stills.

However, I see a lot of mosquito noise around black edges in that pic. Hard to tell how much is due to it being a JPEG but it seems pretty confined to edges.

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