Most Artistic Video

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Post by Jnzk » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:55 am

RPBP: The Assumption of Innocence

That's what I'd call art. 8-)

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Post by pen-pen2002 » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:00 am

I disagree about the appropriatness of "Image" for this category. (Not disparaging the video, just talking categories here. :wink:)

It certainly has a large artistic element in the design of the effects, especcially early in the video when it is mostly freeform. However, I think it would be a crying shame if best effects and most artistic became synonomous in the coming years.

When I think artistic I think form and function, beauty and meaning. Corrans definition is definatly part of it as an action video has a hard time with this (though not impossible, "Whisper of the Beast" stuck me as suprisingly artistic when you really pay attention.)

In some sense though, artistic will always be something of a gut reaction for me. I look at it and I say to myself, "this is art." Or not to myself, an artistic video is the best face of AMV's. I can show "Playground Love" to someone and say: look, AMV's are (or have the potential to be) ART.

In my mind a truly artistic video fits into this category above all others. Including effects.
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Post by silmeluin » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:35 pm

"Joy of Rebirth" certainly deserves a nomination is this category

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=52558

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Post by EternalGraceNote2005 » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:01 pm

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=58009

Final Fantasy VIII - Muse - Stockholm Syndrome

I'd like to try and nominate my own video. If you like it at all, I ask you to nominate it too.

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Post by FoxJones » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:54 am

Otohiko wrote: At least Kai Stromler is still there, to my consolation.
Thank you for the ad ^_^ Found nice AMVs there.
And I can recommend -- (rubicons) for at least a view..
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Post by Warheart » Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:16 am

FoxJones wrote:
Otohiko wrote: At least Kai Stromler is still there, to my consolation.
Thank you for the ad ^_^ Found nice AMVs there.
And I can recommend -- (rubicons) for at least a view..
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Post by JCD » Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:05 pm

It's maybe not as artistic as most videos here but it's worth a pimp:

Shamanic Symphony by xRinoa
Esp. since it's kinda overshadowed by her Oh! My Destiny video ;)

Other than that I agree with most of the stuff mentioned before :)
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Post by Otohiko » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:40 pm

What a shame, this category's at the very bottom of the stickies!

And I've actually come close to making up my mind here...

As always, I'm somewhat unhappy as far as the interpretation of artistic, but eh... I always see art as something of a balancing act between symbolism and aesthetics. As always, this year the stick weighs more heavily on the aesthetics end. Eye-candy is out and stealing attention.

But for all I care, there's at still some very effective videos to show for the category.

My top picks came out a bit lopsided:

1) Tyler_yj - Beautiful Lie
If there's one vid that strikes the balance I mentioned, bingo - here. Grotesque, offbeat, chaotic and hits your mind like a pile of bricks. A feast.

2) Fluxmeister - Beautiful Earth
Tasteful, expansive, somewhat political and very immideate. Edited very simply, but it's all done as convincing as it should be.

3) Fluxmeister - Images
Solid on the conceptual/symbolic side, but for most of the early part I wasn't quite pleased with the presentation. In the end, however, it did work in all its' subtlety.

4) Tyler_yj - Tsumibito no Kashou
Lord, forgive me for I have sinned! I'm voting on a vid based almost solely on its' aesthetic merits! But damn, this one just... really deserves it. It's an exceptional video with an exceptional feel. I've never seen the series, but it hit convincingly hard. My reaction to it was markedly different from just 'great visuals I wonder how he did that', even if the force was predominantly visual. So, a vote it is.

5)

5...

There's a five...

This one gets tricky. There's a few other very deserving videos here, though again, mostly on the aesthetic side. Insomnia and Olin I always admired, and Last Transmission has something interesting going on, but I can't put my finger on whether or not it might just be visual appeal.

That one I'll think about, and if I get desperate, just put in a check for myself.

What, I can't appreciate my own work from an artistic point?
Eh... :roll:
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Post by DrngdKreationz » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:00 pm

No, All AMV creators must think their own work is shit unless they want to be labeled as elitists :P

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Post by Otohiko » Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:53 pm

Oh yeah, and if anyone feels I missed out on the two potential heavyweights in this category, don't worry - I did watch them thoroughly.

In certain aspects, artistic and otherwise, Extraordinary World and Silence are damn well-done. But in all the innovation, I didn't find the connections I was hoping. That's not to say I'm doubting how genuine the intentions of the creators were.

Both those videos used some very unusual creative solutions which didn't sit too well with me because I felt they were too disjoint. So both videos sort of fell apart in front of me in terms of flow. And thus, neither took me places that my best picks for 'art' usually do.

So, I guess not in this category.

ErMaC's grand exit, for me, sits better in Visual Effects; and Aluminum's revival effort seriously has points in Most Original.
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Post by kingmob_867 » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:23 pm

angelx03 wrote: Janzki's The Bird Who Flew Too Far - Haibane Renmei

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Post by pen-pen2002 » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:01 am

There are a lot of really good videos here: Last Transmision, Images, Silence...

But two stand out especially:

Beautiful Lie
The Wasteland

Both incredible videos, I would lean towards Otohiko because he is simply an artistic creator, he couldn't make an un-artistic video if he tried. (He will deny this, don't listen to him, even his attempt at a stright action video was artistic. :wink:)
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Post by Coffee 54 » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:10 pm

pen-pen2002 wrote:There are a lot of really good videos here: Last Transmision, Images, Silence...

But two stand out especially:

Beautiful Lie
The Wasteland

Both incredible videos, I would lean towards Otohiko because he is simply an artistic creator, he couldn't make an un-artistic video if he tried. (He will deny this, don't listen to him, even his attempt at a stright action video was artistic. :wink:)
x2. That's about all I can say about that, just x2. :wink:

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Post by Otohiko » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:29 am

:oops:

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I'd like to add NetTroop's "Another Half" to my list, I suppose. It's not my top pick for artistism, given how I haven't caught on to what's going on internally, but there is some very interesting imagery and aesthetics going on.
It reminds me of abstract structure/installation, if anything :roll:
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Post by Zetjintsu » Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:23 pm

*sigh* Looking over the finals, I guess artistic means most technically impressive effects. :roll:

Silence is probably the video closest to what I think of when I think artistic, but for reasons which I suspect are similar to Otohiko's, the video didn't click for me, failing the "Did it completely absorb my attention the whole time" test.

So I'm leaning towards Whisper of the Best, as it could be argued it's storytelling has artistic elements, though I'll admitt the two epilogues are a bit more heavy handed than how I like art to be (not that they're neccessarily bad, I still haven't made up my mind how I feel about them :? )

But could someone explain something to me before my head explodes? Now I know "art" can be subjective, but what on earth is the definition under which Toushi is art?! Don't get me wrong. It's my choice for best action currently. I love it, precisely because it's the raw emodiment of intense action, w/ out any distracting higher pretenses. It's great how it single mindedly pursues synching all the beats and lyrics. It does know how to pull out something different to break up the fighting sections before they become monotonous; but those always struck me as serving to keep the intensity decreasing from to much sameness, not as having any higher artistic purpose.
"The Wasteland" for best instrumental!

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