AMV Salad 3: next stop - NekoCon 12...

[Gaelstrom]

Kung fu panda Vid need better text and A better Logo at the end.

adobe/ demolition man vid Remove all text and image. and keep it with the FMP joke.

To be honest I didn't get any joke with FMP. I thought the Adobe part was chuckle-tastic.


Kinda like my opinion on the "I wanna destroy you" clip. I actually thought the katamari and pucca clips worked amazingly well... I had no clue why FMA was even in there. It really was not fun at that point.

I would say for the 'destroy you' one it was just... a bit too much of a jaunt. Three completely unrelated pieces of footage in every way in an anime-based parody, and FMA was seemingly tossed in for good measure after the first two. Plus the Katamari commercial was completely unrelated to the song except very indirectly, so I admit some confusion with that one. I can't say I don't like it, but I didn't find it laughably funny, more on the amusing side. But AMA liked it, so I want to see what people react to at Otakon for the clips I don't understand myself. Then again I feel like I'm the only one who friggan lost it at the Wall-E one. I laughed really hard at that one, although looking at my style of comedy in my vids I guess that's not really surprising

As for FMP, the juxtaposition is a really fine line when using anime in film. In this case, I liked it for some reason. Again, it wasn't quite laugh-out-loud funny, but if I had to define it, it's more like 'omg, those totally do describe Sousuke perfectly.' I've been a proponent of removing the Premiere reference because I don't believe those two jokes have any business overlapping as they do. If it was a Premiere joke, it should be created from the ground up for it. In every case I'd err on the side of the original video's purpose. If it didn't get a reaction at AMA, I personally believe it was for the same reason I couldn't really react: it was too much unrelated information. Plus jabbing at a program after I've had to learn several is kinda backwards for me, since I finally accepted it's only really annoying if I don't know the programs functionality well enough. So it's a shallow joke to me, reminding me of when I was blaming my software for my lack of ability to control it Good times... good times...

As for text in Kung Fu Panda, if you wanted to leave the actor's names in there, make them centered on the screen with more definition, like a soft drop shadow or, even better, a light stroke so it doesn't look so thrown together (The text jumping around makes it distracting, when it's not supposed to be a focus). Then I'd say remove all the 'awards' text because EVERY cut in that clip has text on it and it gets cumbersome, especially when it's a block of comment text covering half the screen. I'm uncertain if I like the fake comments in it, but they are hard to read, so they definitely need a stroke if they remain at all. That may bump it up a level.

[Squancho]

Soon, my friends, soon...as in later today...you'll see the rewrite.

All reworked clips placed, known bugs repaired, shiny new graphics thrown in, and a clip arrangement that I think will smooth out the overall flow of the project.

The new running time is about 20:21 after chopping about 45 seconds from the closing credits and taking out the "Funny Farm" clip.

Stay tuned for the mp4...

[krvabo]

But did you remove günther?

I don't want it in there anymore

My name is on that clip, and it sucks

[Squancho]

But did you remove günther?

I don't want it in there anymore

My name is on that clip, and it sucks

Whoops...well, the one thing I meant to do that I forgot about was to place an MTV logo with a picture of Heino in a thought bubble shared by the two characters at the end. After that, this clip will be good for a WTF (but in a good way ). And after what I just went through rearranging everything and repairing the clips that needed it - and the Haruhi one was a pain in the ass - I'm not adding or subtracting any more clips. Sorry.

After watching it, this rewrite does flow a lot better and the new graphics made a great deal of difference. Tune in later today and find out how...

[Gaelstrom]

I'm not adding or subtracting any more clips. Sorry.

After watching it, this rewrite does flow a lot better and the new graphics made a great deal of difference. Tune in later today and find out how...

Look forward to seeing it! Please expect that it is likely you will probably have one final VERY SMALL list of suggestions/requests considering how much you've changed, but you definitely won't have to do what you've just gone through again (this year)

Trying to salvage Gunther isn't worth it this time so I hope you'll listen to Krvabo's wishes. Taking a clip that doesn't work on its own and trying to make it work without reconsidering the original idea is extremely risky and rarely works. InspZenigata and I disagree on the Premiere idea, obviously, but it's simply because I think it would be better as two jokes with more focussed clips for each rather than two overlapping jokes, that's all. Since that's not possible this late in the game, I agree with Sakuraslight in retaining the original anime-based joke.

And don't let the rearranging scare you away from removing one more You make me scared of Vegas, though; it sounds like a nightmare to work with if removing something is a difficult prospect

[Squancho]

Before we get too hasty about removing this clip, allow me to show you what I did with it.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QE62922E (mpeg2)

krvabo:
The way I initially saw it, the joke came at the beginning of the clip. Perhaps the first and final scenes could have been reversed to create a punchline? Rather than go through all that, I went with the idea I mentioned earlier and added the text, "...vundervul!!!" ("wonderful" in German) in Pokemon lettering. This brings the ad full circle and stays with the mock-German theme. This project can always use more chucklworthy WTF clips and this does well to satisfy that. You had a good base to work with, as did a few other clips which became ads / trailers, but could have gone further to drive the point home. I still think this clip is good enough to keep but take a look for yourself. Amid all the other ads, it fits into the line quite nicely...

[Gaelstrom]

Hmmm... it's close... SO close... Now everything works clip-wise except the beginning and the end again. Osaka with the coocoo clock sound is definitely epic. In fact the whole clip could be saved by Tomo cussin' at the bug and Osaka. The problem with her being the one hitting everyone else still doesn't connect with the 'german' thing, but if you're going 'wtf?' with this one, then that's easily forgivable ^^

Here's what I think needs to be done to truly finalize it in this form at the very least. I don't think it can ever truly make sense in this current form, but it can get some WTF laughs almost certainly. The beginning part needs to be changed to footage of Tomo saying to the others "I guess what I'm trying to say is... I'm german..." followed by everything that's currently there. That would make it very very strong in the random yet not random department. The ending would be the weakest portion still. Actually I'd say you remove the MTV logo and leave the 'Wundervoll!" so it's even more random, and the randomness will get the 4chan /b/tard laughs at the end. My only other thought is the text is hard to read, so I'd make it larger and put it on the bottom, or choose different font.

OH! Alternatively, I have a potential solution! Get rid of all the other dialogue and cuts and just have the Tomo slaps (with less silence at the beginning during her wind-up), then her running by Osaka cussin', then the Osaka coocoo clock noise, then test pattern! You can't get much more random than that. It's potentially funny since it's now almost literally slapstick humor! Plus who doesn't laugh at german cussing ^^ This alleviates all connectivity confusion and lets it be simplicity at its best.

'Sup to you guys, does that idea have merit? The alternative is to very quickly get two small scenes of Tomo talking (One for "I guess what I'm trying to say is" then second for "I'm german" and if possible, a reaction shot between that and the slaps), lip sync quickly, and put them into the current form and send it off quickly as replacement footage, that way Deuce has virtually no difficulty at all. I say if Krvabo's up to it, I'd go for the quick edits, I'll even help find reasonable footage, and then just render off that portion, send to Deuce and quick-insert. Sound reasonable?

[Squancho]

Here's a 92.47mb cigar for y'all to put in yer hats an' smoke up...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F27M5ZAD (mp4)

I think this year's project will work much better than the last two. It will be a rather stark contrast shown after AMVS2 at the panels, but in a good way. And it's all because of your effort in making suggestions and offering advice or services beyond my reach. This was definitely a cooperative effort.

Gaelstrom:
Cook one up and I'll have a look...

SDIT:
Good news.

Just got a message from Matt Pyson of Otakon parodies.

We're making the switch. Just sent him the...OOPS - mp4 link. Crap...must send mpeg 2. I suck...

[InspZenigata]

I think we've got a winner here with this line up. It flowed a lot better than the first version.

Three things I have question/concerns with:
1) The Haruhi/NSync clip... was that edited since the BETA? I thought the timing and order of the dance moves was in much better synch on the first copy than this latest mix. Maybe it was just my eyes, but I thought the dance matched the music better in the BETA.

2) Is it just me or is the quality of the first 20-30 seconds of "NOW That's what I call" getting worse and worse? Any way to fix that up? Like it was just a blur on my screen, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't my player.

3) Deuce... gonna hate me for this, but is there any way to re-align my "On a Boat" clip? I guess when it adjusted to the 4:3 ratio from 640x480 the left side of the video got sliced. For example, when the guy shouts "LET'S GO" and we see the mouth in the lower left corner, that's cropped right in half. Anyway to fix that on your end? I'd try it myself but regrettably I don't have access to my original project files (computer died, etc.). This I find very odd cos I don't see any noticeable changes in my other two clips (the Lincoln car and Head-OFF commercials).

[Squancho]

I think we've got a winner here with this line up. It flowed a lot better than the first version.

Three things I have question/concerns with:
1) The Haruhi/NSync clip... was that edited since the BETA? I thought the timing and order of the dance moves was in much better synch on the first copy than this latest mix. Maybe it was just my eyes, but I thought the dance matched the music better in the BETA.

2) Is it just me or is the quality of the first 20-30 seconds of "NOW That's what I call" getting worse and worse? Any way to fix that up? Like it was just a blur on my screen, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't my player.

3) Deuce... gonna hate me for this, but is there any way to re-align my "On a Boat" clip? I guess when it adjusted to the 4:3 ratio from 640x480 the left side of the video got sliced. For example, when the guy shouts "LET'S GO" and we see the mouth in the lower left corner, that's cropped right in half. Anyway to fix that on your end? I'd try it myself but regrettably I don't have access to my original project files (computer died, etc.). This I find very odd cos I don't see any noticeable changes in my other two clips (the Lincoln car and Head-OFF commercials).

I think you may be experiencing a bit of what I keep hearing happens with mp4. I haven't altered the "Boat" or "Now" clips at all. I did rework the Haruhi clip and the sync was fine from here. That was mpeg2, though. I dunno why mp4 is so weird. I'll look at the project mpeg2 when it's done cooking and see if any of these problems are there as well...