Noir episode 25 (SPOILERS)

[Anime 51]

I somehow knew from the first episode that Mireille and Kirika would end up shooting at each other. Anyone else?

[angelx03]

I'm still confused why they're shooting each other. Does it have to do with Kirika being the true Noir?

[Jnzk]

While Kirika was at the Manor, she seemed to be in a "brain-washed" state. Also Chloe had a lot of influence over her with all the twisted romantic interest and whatnot. Kirika wasn't herself and saw Mireille as trying to prevent the ritual. Basically I think at that time Kirika was being her childhood self, just a merciless killer obeying the will of others. She had probably spent a good deal of youth in the Manor and returning there triggered something in her head again.

That's how I saw it, at least.

[TheMadOne]

Well (dramatic pause) while we are at a "end of series" discussion, we should discuss what ecactly happend.

The Whole story began with soldats, and their cult of justice. Somehow, they spawned the NOIR-sisters. A duett that makes, once they work together, the perfect killing machine.
So, another aera of noir passed and a new set of "Noir" was abaut to spawn. There were 3 "candidates": Kirika and Chloe, who lived both at the village of Soldats, and the mafia daughter Mireille.
Then, the Bouquet familiy became somehow an enemy of Soldats (can´t recall the exact reason), that´s why they had to be exterminated. The extermination was done by Kirika, and then there is this biiiig pause in the storyline and we don´t exactly know what happend.

My thoughts: Kirika didn´t accept what she was and what her function in life was, so she decided to forget who she was and ran away until the mooks of Soldats found her in ep.1. That might explain why the only person she could think of was Mireille. So, she contacted her and wasn´t worried at all when Mireille made her promise to kill her after the job was done. Even if she didn´t know for sure, she felt guilty and that it might be right to be killed be Mireille.

[Jnzk]

Then, the Bouquet familiy became somehow an enemy of Soldats (can´t recall the exact reason), that´s why they had to be exterminated.

That was because they refused to hand over their daughter to the Soldats.

My thoughts: Kirika didn´t accept what she was and what her function in life was, so she decided to forget who she was and ran away until the mooks of Soldats found her in ep.1. That might explain why the only person she could think of was Mireille. So, she contacted her and wasn´t worried at all when Mireille made her promise to kill her after the job was done. Even if she didn´t know for sure, she felt guilty and that it might be right to be killed be Mireille.

This black hole in the story gives much room to speculation. I've always thought that the Soldats deliberately erased Kirika's memories. Finding out who she really was and what had happened in the past was a part of the trials to become true Noir. It was also important not to reveal the identity of the men in suits to raise the stakes in this survival game. Because the killing of the Bouquets was such an important event for Kirika emotionally, she could still probably faintly remember something about Mireille and find her. That, and the Soldats wanted them to get together to test their skills.

[Rozard]

If you've seen the last episode, I'm going to ask something about the very last scene:

When the camera is focused on the Soldats pocket watch and you hear two gun shots, what do you think happened? When I first saw it, I thought that the group of Soldats guys killed Mirelle and Kirika. Then, after thinking about it a bit, I thought maybe it meant that Mirelle and Kirika took up the name Noir, and that Mirelle has left her trouble in the past behind her. Any other thoughts?

[TallonKarrde23]

the nuns with the golden P228's or whatever gun they had own

[Jnzk]

If you've seen the last episode, I'm going to ask something about the very last scene:

When the camera is focused on the Soldats pocket watch and you hear two gun shots, what do you think happened? When I first saw it, I thought that the group of Soldats guys killed Mirelle and Kirika. Then, after thinking about it a bit, I thought maybe it meant that Mirelle and Kirika took up the name Noir, and that Mirelle has left her trouble in the past behind her. Any other thoughts?

I never thought the duo was shot. In my opinion that last scene was more like a symbolic message meaning that they went on with their lives, perhaps leaving the whole assassination business behind.

[Anime 51]

I never thought the duo was shot. In my opinion that last scene was more like a symbolic message meaning that they went on with their lives, perhaps leaving the whole assassination business behind.

I assumed they carried on more or less as they had been; the gunshots were them taking out their latest target.

[HeartbreakerByZep]

(Free range spoiler warning, don't read this if you haven't seen!)

That was an awesome ending indeed...

Here are my takes on the ideas touched on in this thread,

About the manor, I can see why Kirika would attack Mireille because, for some reason, I too was in a trance like state while we where at the Manor. I didn't want Mireiyu to stop the ritual either.

About the rejection of "Noir" I think that was about the theme that hate can't save people. I doubt Kirika and Mireille will continue being assasins, but if they do they certainly won't be Noir anymore. But I'm getting into things that everybody already knows, so I'll stop for now.

About the ending scene with the shots, I think that was suposed to be extrmely ambiguious. I can't really decide what it means yet.