Most Obscure Materials?

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Most Obscure Materials?

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:21 pm

Maybe there should be a category for videos which use stuff that's hard to get, largely unknown, or just too weird for most people to use. If, for example, a video were to use a song by Betty Elders (ever hear of her?) and clips from Windaria (can you even get a copy of that these days?), it would be a good nominee for this category.

For extra points, the AMV should be as under-rated as possible. (For best results, in other words, it should have a thousand downloads and no opinions.) I don't have any particular nominee in mind, but I'd like to see whether anyone else does. What's your favorite video that uses stuff no one's ever heard of before now?

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Post by J-0080 » Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:46 pm

paizuri wrote:There's also no need for introductions because we're generally a friendly bunch and will welcome you with wide open arms anyway.

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Post by Rorschach » Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:29 pm

Ve-e-ery funny, wiseguy.

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Post by Braveliver » Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:11 pm

Well, one of my videos fits the first set of criteria. <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 75">Bright Eyes</a> is one of a very few "Night on the Galactic Railroad" videos out on the Org, and features the obscure song "Bright Eyes" from the movie "Watership Down". Both of these are very obscure, and even the theme of this video is not one touched on very often.

The only thing is that people on the org have responded more to it than I ever expected, and that pleases me very much. Before I knew it I had 7 reviews to the video, and added one myself to explain a particular aspect of the video for those who left a review. Since July it has had only 124 hits, and only 30 downloads, but the reviews so far have been favorable, far more favorable than I ever expected. I never thought it would ever fit any catagory someone would bring up, but I think it would fit this one.
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:04 pm

It's not exactly a video editing skill... you could slap together a vid in five minutes from a super-obscure anime, but does that make it a good video? :?

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Post by Braveliver » Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:30 pm

That is so true. That's why I didn't slap something together. I will admit that Bright Eyes is not the best video ever produced, but it was one close to my heart for various reasons. Frankly, using obscure sources was the least thing from my mind when I made it, I made it for myself, and was surprised when other people liked it too. Honestly I thought they would find it slow and depressing, which it is.
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:50 am

Ooh, nothing personal. I was responding to the first post in the thread. Trust me, if I were talking about yours I'd have quoted it. :)

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Post by Braveliver » Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:11 am

No prob. I didn't think you were talking about me anyway. :wink:
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Post by Braveliver » Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:18 am

But there is something about using material not normally used, or in a way not normally approached, such as a Vampire Hunter D video that features nothing but D, but has NO ACTION whatsoever. I won't mention the vid, but you can find it in my video collection by clicking below. (I don't feel like being shameless today.)
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Post by Rorschach » Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:25 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:It's not exactly a video editing skill... you could slap together a vid in five minutes from a super-obscure anime, but does that make it a good video? :?
Well, of course, if it weren't any good, no one would care to vote for it. There would also be a built-in incentive not to produce total crap in that rare and unusual footage, as well as rare and unusual songs, are something you'd tend to want to show to the best advantage; by using these materials, you're showing you've got something cool that not many other people do. A fairly good example would be that "Center of the Sun" video I saw which combined Metropolis (a movie not everyone has seen or understood) with music by Conjure One (who's that?). It probably wouldn't win in this category, but it would definitely get a fair number of votes.

Of course, on the other hand, there might be an incentive to use really cheesy anime that no one likes or wants to use with really crappy music no one has ever heard of. If this were done the right way, though, it would make a great comedy video. (This works by the same principle that causes some people to fill their days with laughter watching B-grade films.) For example, a song that just drips with mournful sentimentalism set to footage of the not-so-regrettable death of a rather forgettable character in an anime that never should have been made could be outrageously funny. I would vote for that!

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Post by Brad » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:31 pm

One video that comes to mind when you're talking about obscure material is Ian's "<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... orytelling - A Gothic Fairytale</a>" video.
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:40 pm

I feel like I saw 57 Metropolis vids in the finals of Otakon 03 alone. If you think it's obscure, I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. :?

Anyway, I'm not on that whole "if it's obscure that means it's automatically good" mindset, so I'll bow out of the conversation. Just had to note that Metropolis is by no stretch of the imagination obscure anymore.

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Post by Braveliver » Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:46 pm

Rorschach wrote: Well, of course, if it weren't any good, no one would care to vote for it. There would also be a built-in incentive not to produce total crap in that rare and unusual footage, as well as rare and unusual songs, are something you'd tend to want to show to the best advantage;
Ok. I know what you mean here Rorscharch, when you have an obscure Anime that you like alot, you don't want to slap something together half heartedly, you want to do something that is worthy of the Anime, and it does mean something about knowing, and being able to get your hands on more unknown titles, as well as putting it to good music that may not be as well known, but it is still what you do with it that counts, and that is what I think Sarah is saying.

SarahtheBoring wrote:I feel like I saw 57 Metropolis vids in the finals of Otakon 03 alone. If you think it's obscure, I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. :?
I have to agree on this point with Sarah here. Metropolis is not obscure, and never has been. In fact, it was reviewed on national TV by Ebert & Roper, and its soundtrack is listed on Rhapsody's top 100 movie soundtracks. (It is also one of the biggest selling Anime DVD's at Wal Mart)

Now classics like Studio Ghibli's "Only Yesterday" would fall in the more unknown works, and "Robot Carnival" or "Huminoid" under the harder to get a good dvd quality footage of. These are the kinds of things I think that you may have had in mind. Hard to get and hard to make a vid out of.

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Sarah, I think you need to realize that this catagory, which I agree does not have a chance of being accepted, is more in the spirit of bringing out to the public eye Anime that would not normally be seen as much, and commend people for putting together good videos using that anime. It is not rewarding them for finding the most obscure Anime and just slapping it together, but making good original videos that make you say, "Gee, what Anime is that from. I have to check that out!" as Kevin Caldwell's <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... .php?v=802"> Phantom of the Opera</a> did for the still hard to find "Memories" (I think you can order the Chinese DVD version of it, but I have never seen it released in America)

With that said, lets end the conversation and continue enjoying these wonderful AMV's people have made, both common and uncommon.
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Post by Rorschach » Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:23 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:I feel like I saw 57 Metropolis vids in the finals of Otakon 03 alone. If you think it's obscure, I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. :?

Anyway, I'm not on that whole "if it's obscure that means it's automatically good" mindset, so I'll bow out of the conversation. Just had to note that Metropolis is by no stretch of the imagination obscure anymore.
Well, I honestly wouldn't know how popular Metropolis is these days: I don't go to cons. (A year or so ago, though, I did have trouble finding a Metropolis AMV I could download here...) It was just an example, anyway. Nowadays... I don't know what would be obscure. I mostly only have popular animes myself. In any case, whether such a category ever comes into existence or not, I still think it would be a good category. I'll let the matter go at that.

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