This weeks video:
This weeks bonus: There wasn't one although quadir sprang a rather nasty game video on us at the end here.
[20:02] <Kionon> Well, who wants to go first?
[20:02] <Niotex> I'd have to see what video it is first =|
[20:03] * godix changes topic to '#Edit, you bastards! http://www.a-m-v.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1123178 | NEXT REVIEW: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=158042 <- This is what video it is Nio'
[20:03] <Niotex> ugh this video?
[20:03] <ngsilver> yay, now i know the vid
[20:04] <Niotex> Simply put its cheesy its simple and its.. ugh..
[20:04] <Kionon> The transformers part was funny.
[20:04] <Niotex> thats like.. the only remotely funny section
[20:04] <godix> I get the feeling it's several semi-complete vids that he didn't want to finish so he just jammed them them all together into the same vid
[20:05] <Kionon> I enjoyed the reference to Narutotrek, but it's kind of a one trick horse.
[20:05] <DriftRoot> Why did The Audition beat 'Bustin at Sakura-Con? Are singing Transformers THAT funny?
[20:05] <Kionon> This a gag video. I can't see watching it multiple times, no offense to Vlad.
[20:06] <Niotex> works the same as a blip video
[20:06] <Niotex> except I didnt laugh this time around -.-
[20:07] <Kionon> I chuckled mildly. But I have no desire to watch it again, and the ending just dragged on.
[20:07] * Niotex wants more "A View To A Kill" type stuff T_T
[20:07] <Kionon> So since this is cruise control for comedy, why wasn't it funny?
[20:07] <godix> Some of the segments were too long. And the concept tying them together was uhhh just there
[20:07] <Niotex> because it was too simple
[20:07] <Niotex> either that or the voice acting just didnt do it for me
[20:08] <godix> Yeah. I know servo bitched about the voice acting as well.
[20:08] <Kionon> The voice acting was bad.
[20:08] <DriftRoot> One thing that bothered me was the song choice: this was an opportunity to make the songs themselves part of a running gag - like poking fun at congoers or something - but instead they were just "there."
[20:08] <ngsilver> i actually couldn't really understand what was being said half the time
[20:08] <Kionon> I'll concur with that.
[20:08] <Niotex> felt like watching a german dub of dbz
[20:08] <DriftRoot> It could have been worse!
[20:08] <Kionon> It could have been, but I'm not sure that's a compliment.
[20:09] <godix> Some of the segments actually would have been better without the lipsynced characters. The great balls of fire for example worked with just the background video.
[20:09] <DriftRoot> I had trouble seeing the background a lot - I kept thinking there was something funnier going on back there that I would rather be watching.
[20:09] <ngsilver> i chuckled with the bottle fairry part... only because the song kinda makes me chuckle every time i hear it...
[20:09] <DriftRoot> There was one point where Sailor Moon's head seemed to be in the way of something very amusing...
[20:09] <ngsilver> other then that, I found it boring
[20:10] <Kionon> The SM part seemed such a travesty.
[20:10] <godix> was the bottle fairy on the do do di do part?
[20:10] <Kionon> I know the series inside and out, and so does Vlad, he could have done so much better.
[20:10] <ngsilver> godix: yeah
[20:10] <Kionon> godix: yeah
[20:10] <DriftRoot> do do di do...oh the muppet song...
[20:10] <godix> I liked that part but as you said, mostly for the song
[20:11] <Kionon> It was funny until he replaced the faeries with other chibi-characters, then it just annoyed me.
[20:11] <ngsilver> the background on the SM segment, and most for that matter... not sure what they had to do with anything
[20:11] <quadir> video is the auditions?
[20:11] <Kionon> Though using the shinigami for mnamana was amusing.
[20:11] <godix> quadir: yup.
[20:11] <DriftRoot> Yes
[20:11] <godix> It's an admin so make sure to really tear it to pieces.
[20:12] <Kionon> I think the problem here is coherency.
[20:12] <godix> The idea to tie these together really didn't work I don't think.
[20:12] <Kionon> It's a new take on hell, but in the attempt to make it a story, it;s like "whut?"
[20:12] <DriftRoot> It worked, but it needed more support.
[20:12] <godix> I mean what the hell are these people even auditioning for?
[20:12] <Niotex> Godix the fact that Vlad is a admin shouldmt matter
[20:12] <Kionon> "why do we care these are con auditions? How is this funny?"
[20:13] <DriftRoot> Ok: anime con...where's the con? Where's the anime fandom jokes?
[20:13] <Kionon> NOW
[20:13] <godix> Nio: I'm joking. Although the fact he is an admin would, if anything, make me even meaner than normal.
[20:13] <Kionon> If he had made it a cosplay masquerade idea, and these are the weeaboo acts, now that would be funny.
[20:13] <ngsilver> actually, having been part of con planning for a while now... I thought the con audiotions thing as loose and hard to believe
[20:13] <Niotex> Godix I mean it the other way aroudn though
[20:13] <Kionon> because then it would just be true.
[20:13] <quadir> oh looks it's a hell video!
[20:13] <Kionon> I've seen the naruto trek stuff, etc.
[20:13] <DriftRoot> Kio: that's what I thought it was, at first, but then it turned out it wasn't.
[20:14] <quadir> without the group contributions!
[20:14] <Niotex> I've noticed that people tend to go soft on people that have some kind of power on the boards. I'm not talking about us but just in general
[20:14] <DriftRoot> Ryuk in cosplay would have been awesome.
[20:14] <quadir> cause he can do better on every single segment!
[20:14] <godix> Yeah. That's part of why Id idn't really connect to the video. Who are these people? If they're cosplayers then why the video in the background. If it's an AMV show then why the 'live' performance? WTF were they auditioning for?
[20:14] <Kionon> Basically, I think what failed here is that the attempt to tie the segments together was so weak, it hurt the comedy value of the individual segments.
[20:14] <DriftRoot> An AMV?
[20:15] <godix> Nio: I know. But I was joking. And you know me, going 'soft' just isn't an option.
[20:15] <Kionon> I laugh and then suddenly, I'm jerked out of the experience having to ask questions about what the heck is going on between segments. I mean, I get the idea, I just.. why?
[20:16] <DriftRoot> btw, my Internet onnection is kind of unstable right now, so if I vanish that's probably to blame.
[20:16] <godix> Some parts of the video I liked but that was more despite the general concept than because of it. The star trekin was just funny but the attempts to tie it with the others sucked
[20:16] <Niotex> I feel you man.. We have our reps to worry about ;)
[20:16] <ngsilver> I've never really heard of live proformances for an opening ceremonies... videos yes... so it confuses me
[20:16] <quadir> I think this video falls into a common pitfall of bringing media across different mediums. It's a collections of clips that would be funnier if it was just the originals.
[20:16] <DriftRoot> I've seen live TAPED performances...
[20:16] <Kionon> There are live performances, but they're usually staff related.
[20:16] <quadir> instead of "amv" remakes
[20:16] <Kionon> As an example, at AWA, OP Ceremonies always had Dave, the con chair, burn a magic card in an elaborate ritual.
[20:17] <DriftRoot> oooo MMV rituals...
[20:17] <DriftRoot> er... *AMV
[20:17] * Kit|schooling is now known as Kit|rockedthefinal
[20:17] <godix> And whoever said it needed more con jokes was right. This video feels like it was definately made for a con audience rather than us org viewers. Which is fine, but where's all the injokes man?
[20:17] <ngsilver> yeah, though I've never heard of auditioning acts for it
[20:17] <Kionon> He even has a receded frame with a magic card, match, and mallet that says "Break glass in the event of a con."
[20:17] <DriftRoot> godix: that would be me
[20:17] <quadir> godix: the 404 did a skit. They are an improv group.
[20:18] <DriftRoot> HOWEVER I think it's interesting that this won not only Best Comedy, but Best in Show...the audience obviously loved it...
[20:18] <godix> quadir: Did they audition?
[20:18] <Kionon> More proof non-editors are idiots.
[20:18] <quadir> godix: that's the audio... but it seems a lot more staged then their usual stuff
[20:18] <Kionon> There. I said it.
[20:18] <Kionon> I'd say it again.
[20:18] <DriftRoot> hehehe
[20:18] <Niotex> Some editors are still idiots =|
[20:18] <ngsilver> kio: i can agree with you there
[20:18] <quadir> Kionon: if I was still running this crap I'd kick you!
[20:19] <Niotex> amirite Drift? =|
[20:19] <godix> Eh, I can see why it was popular with an audience. It has blatent fan pandering in some spots and a few rather lowbrow comedy techniques. It'd be a big hit in a crowd of unsophisticated 15 year olds.
[20:19] <Kionon> It's pretty well known I have a bia against audience run contests.
[20:19] <DriftRoot> Yeah, that would be me the idiot, Nio
[20:19] <Niotex> :up:
[20:19] <Kionon> quadir: Baut you're not, and that was tongue-in-cheek :P
[20:20] <DriftRoot> ^_^
[20:20] <Kionon> I think the technical skill in this video was top notch.
[20:20] <quadir> Kionon: except the foreground guy, who was all pixels
[20:20] <Kionon> The masking and rotoing was awesome, and lip sync was dead on.
[20:20] <Kionon> Well, yeah, except the foreground guy.
[20:20] <quadir> 1:37 says it all
[20:20] <DriftRoot> The editing saved it for me, I wasn't (for the most part) being distracted by a lot of technical problems. It made the rest go down a lot easier.
[20:20] <godix> Another thing that bothered me were the specific characters used. What does hellsing have to do with balls of fire? Where did the bebop to opera come from? That sort of thing
[20:20] <quadir> seemed almost an afterthought
[20:21] <DriftRoot> Er, fire = hell...fiery hell...
[20:21] <DriftRoot> hellfire...hellsing, close enough, right?
[20:21] <Kionon> The bebop to the opera was the fight, but more importantly, why have Usagi singing it?
[20:21] <godix> quadir: That's why I suspect it was half-made videos thrown together at the last minute. The transition clearly shows less effort than the videos themselves.
[20:21] <Kionon> Using the senshi was the real stretch there.
[20:22] <Kionon> Not the opera to a cowboy bebop fight scene.
[20:22] <Kionon> I've seen entire drama videos do that.
[20:22] <DriftRoot> I want to say the Bebop fight in the movie was also to orchestral music...but I could be wrong...I've seen something like that before.
[20:22] <godix> I've seen it before but not for comedy.
[20:22] <DriftRoot> But I don't watch many AMVs like that, so I'm trying to figure out where I've seen it before...very annoying.
[20:23] <godix> Sto had a beta semi-like it that he was pimping around for awhile
[20:23] <Kionon> I think the attempt was to mock someone who thought cosplaying as Sailor Moon and singing opera dramatically to cowboy bebop.
[20:23] * Kit|rockedthefinal is now known as MichaelRichards
[20:23] <Kionon> was serious.
[20:23] <Kionon> When it isn't.
[20:23] <DriftRoot> That's a bit of a stretch.
[20:23] <Kionon> Yes, it is.
[20:24] <Kionon> I said that.
[20:24] <Kionon> I think I knwo what vlad was going for but I'm like "who would ever think of this?"
[20:24] <godix> I'm not seeing any mocking cosplayers. Not even good fun ribbing which he could have gotten away without hurting any cosplayers feelings.
[20:24] <quadir> arguing over scene choices seems a bit defeatist. I'm not sure what you get out of that.
[20:25] <DriftRoot> I'd have liked this AMV a ton more if it lampooned congoers with extra sharp sticks.
[20:25] <godix> quadir: It's not scene choice I'm debating. It's what anime was picked for certain segments regardless of the scenes used from the anime.
[20:25] <Kionon> I'm with DR on this one.
[20:25] <ngsilver> I would have liked this more if it did make cosplayer's cry
[20:25] <DriftRoot> Make all the characters cosplay, for instance: ROFL
[20:25] <ngsilver> I would have found it very funny then
[20:25] <quadir> The whole video in my opinion centers around what is actually happening with the audio. You have a sketch comedy group doing an opening ceremonies for an anime convention about getting an act for the opening ceremonies.
[20:25] <DriftRoot> And just pack on the ridiculous factor...give them all Naruto headbands by the end, Pikachu hats, Yaoi paddles...the works.
[20:25] <godix> I could certainly see a good video with a similar idea that poked fun at con audiences. I know Vlad wouldn't want to do a harsh mocking that'd piss people off but even so, he coulda pulled off a good natured mocking.
[20:25] <quadir> Live sketch things like this are usually only funny in person, if at all.
[20:26] <Kionon> He had an opportunity to actually produce satire of a known group.
[20:26] <Kionon> And I think he wasted it.
[20:26] <DriftRoot> Well, he won two awards for it...it wasn't a total waste in that respect.
[20:26] <Kionon> Spock with the Naruto Band, did make me snort my pepsi.
[20:26] <Kionon> I will admit that one.
[20:26] <godix> I certainly would have found a harsh full of making fun of con people to be funny. But I know why he wouldn't do it.
[20:26] <DriftRoot> But this could have been more, it seems like.
[20:27] <quadir> So really, the video is bringing this into the online amv medium, and while the clips the 404's used might of been funny in person, they are old hat, and the people talking doesn't translate well
[20:27] <Kionon> Yeah, I think he was too cautious, too conservative here.
[20:27] <ngsilver> though, after seeing two groups of naruto characters with starfleet chevrons, I was expecting the narutard spock
[20:27] <godix> You know what this video is missing? The 400lb sailor moon male cosplayer.
[20:27] <Kionon> Sailor Ogre!
[20:27] <Kionon> You're right.
[20:27] <DriftRoot> You've also got to be willing to take a gamble at a con, not a lot of people are willing to do that..,
[20:27] <Kionon> That and Sailor Bacon.
[20:28] <DriftRoot> lol
[20:28] <Kionon> If Bacon had made an apeparance, I'd have give Vlad mad props.
[20:28] <godix> Halfway through I was semi-expecting a sailor bubba or manfaye appearence.
[20:28] <DriftRoot> oh god manfaye...thanks bunches for THAT image...
[20:28] * DriftRoot scrubs her eyes
[20:29] <DriftRoot> And he had the perfect opportunity with that Bebop segment...
[20:29] <ngsilver> though I would have found other people to gross the fans out with, those two are probably the best bet of being known
[20:29] <DriftRoot> We also need a few glomps, fangirls chasing folks around, etc. hehe, have a little mob keep running across the screen or something
[20:30] <Kionon> We also need Kimura-sensei drifiting around the female cosplayers.
[20:30] <Kionon> It isn't a con if it doesn't have a pedophile.
[20:30] <quadir> it's interesting that the best segment in this video isn't an AMV according to the org. transformers.
[20:30] <quadir> and it's probably what made it win
[20:30] <quadir> the masking is awesome on it
[20:30] <Kionon> The transformers was the only part that made me laugh out loud.
[20:30] <quadir> and village people gets old really slowly
[20:30] <DriftRoot> quadir: that's what Vlad was kind of saying in that thread, people loved the Transformers
[20:31] <godix> I thought star treking was best personally.
[20:31] <DriftRoot> Well, plus, with Transformers...you kind of knew what was coming and the set up was great.
[20:31] <Kionon> http://www.fansview.com/person/0422pers.htm M- Sailor Bacon, in case anyone doesn't know.
[20:31] <DriftRoot> That was kind of meh for me, but I also don't like Star Trek so that's an auto fail in my book.
[20:32] <DriftRoot> It just seemed kind of disjointed...a little too long compared to the other segments...
[20:32] <DriftRoot> All I kept envisioning was the Star Trek spoof from AMV Hell 3... and there's just no comparison.
[20:32] <Kionon> No, no.
[20:32] <quadir> sesamy street is way overdone and too simple
[20:33] <Kionon> The Star trek thing was, really, really pointed.
[20:33] <godix> Great balls of fire is the one that was way way too long
[20:33] <Kionon> There is a new convention that is literally Narutotrek.
[20:33] <Kionon> Vlad is mocking that specific convention.
[20:33] <quadir> godix: it's close, as a fan of both I thought treking was better done, but an anime crowd would go for transformers over the sci-fi trek
[20:33] <Kionon> That's why I'm so surprised he didn't go out and mock some other groups more clearly.
[20:33] <godix> even without knowing that, and I didn't at first, it's still a decent segment. Just for spock in the naruto headband.
[20:33] <quadir> despite him trying to make it more accesible with naruto
[20:33] <DriftRoot> Yeah but if you don't "get" it then it falls utterly flat. The rest of this AMV is pretty straightforward - that segment wasn't and seemed a little out of place.
[20:34] <DriftRoot> Oh yes, Spock was perfect!
[20:34] <quadir> Kionon: uh, was the audio made for the video? or was the audio from an actual 404 opening ceremonies skit?
[20:34] <godix> DR: I disagree with you. This is the point where I should channel FC and Aes and start mocking you.
[20:34] <Kionon> ...
[20:34] <DriftRoot> godix: go to hell :P
[20:34] <Kionon> Dude the audio is is Dr. Demento. Star Trekkin is from the 80s.
[20:34] <quadir> Kionon: the audio cite at the end says it's from the 404 sketch comedy group
[20:35] <godix> Kio: Let me guess, I get censored again?
[20:35] <quadir> Kionon: look at the credits
[20:35] <Kionon> No, no.
[20:35] <Kionon> That's the spoken parts.
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[20:35] <quadir> Kionon: the songs are obviously their respective owners, but the voiceover, and PICKING which tracks... is the whole thing a skit?
[20:35] <Kionon> The song parts are from the original song sources.
[20:35] <quadir> ie, the 404's already picked which songs?
[20:36] <DriftRoot> I don't think it is, quadir.
[20:36] <quadir> or did vlad pick the songs and get one of the 404's to dub?
[20:36] * DriftRoot checks
[20:36] <Kionon> I thought the 404's were asked by Vlad to do the voices for those particular segments.
[20:36] <quadir> ah, that changes a few things in my mind
[20:36] <quadir> I thought he took the audio from an existing 404 skit
[20:36] <Kionon> No, no.
[20:37] <Kionon> He asked them to record the tie-ins.
[20:37] <Serv0> So did I miss anything major?
[20:37] <quadir> which would explain why it didn't work out perfectly
[20:37] <DriftRoot> From the comments, it sounds like he picked which songs to use...
[20:37] <godix> serv0: Nope. We haven';t really touched on the voice actors so you can bitch all you want there.
[20:39] <Serv0> hrmmm...I already did about 5 times this past week, and now I'm just burnt out in bitching about how nausiating the voice acting sounds.
[20:39] <Serv0> but in any case...
[20:39] <Serv0> The first thing I noticed about this vid was the voice acting actually.
[20:39] <Serv0> Maybe it's me, but i felt that it stood out of place with the rest of the vid.
[20:40] <DriftRoot> Did it add more than it subtracted?
[20:40] <DriftRoot> Would this have been a better video without the voice acting?
[20:40] <Serv0> To me it subtracted. As for the rest of you viewers, it really depends on your tastes and perspective.
[20:41] <godix> My problem with the VA wasn't that is was bad, although it was, but rather it failed to tie things together like it was supposed to. Instead it came off as a few random things with bad VA in between instead of a solid unifying concept
[20:41] <Kionon> My problem was the same. Not the voice, just the lack of coherency.
[20:42] <DriftRoot> For me it wasn't crucial, in terms of making or breaking the AMV...it was just kind of there. It didn't DO anything for me, which is probably a sign that it wasn't necessary.
[20:42] <Serv0> I can see why this would do well with con audiences. But when it translates to the computer screen here at home, it becomes a different story.
[20:42] <DriftRoot> Heh, the audience also has to quiet down at the right parts or else you can't hear the VA.
[20:43] <ngsilver> I couldn't hear the VA over my room fan sometimes
[20:43] <DriftRoot> That's some fan you've got there.
[20:43] <godix> DR: I think that's part of why the segments were overly long. To let people laugh a lot at the start of them and wind down to the VA points after the initial laughs faded
[20:43] <ngsilver> which contrasted greatly with the other segments, which were plently loud
[20:44] <DriftRoot> godix: now there's a thought. If you know you're going to be facing a crowd, it's not a bad idea to edit accordingly.
[20:44] <Serv0> I'm wondering if Vlad did any adjustments between the Con he showed this at and when he released it online.
[20:45] <DriftRoot> I know I did it...and by golly it worked!!
[20:45] <godix> Yup. Like I said, I definately get the feeling this was made for a con and he just put it on the org because, well, he's supposed to.
[20:45] <ngsilver> well, apparently people were bugging him about it
[20:45] <godix> Plus IIRC he pretty much said exactly that in the announcement thread
[20:46] <DriftRoot> It's funny, though, there's these things I call "Arena AMVs" that just are pure gold in front a crowd...but I find it hard to see this going gold (even though I know it did).
[20:46] <DriftRoot> Well ok, I can see it...I just am not a lemming who would go along with it. :|
[20:47] <DriftRoot> hehe
[20:47] <ngsilver> I don't really see myself showing this to my friends. Nor do I feel it to be funny enough or fun enough to show at any AMV Wars events
[20:47] * DriftRoot is now known as Not_A_Lemming
[20:47] <Not_A_Lemming> uh oh..
[20:47] <godix> I can see it. Simple humor, which isn't actually a bad thing, popular characters. Some segments that were actually amsuing. I know why a con crowd loved it.
[20:47] <Not_A_Lemming> I'm lagging, Internet connection may go belly up soon...
[20:47] * Not_A_Lemming is now known as DriftRoot
[20:48] <Kionon> So do I, and that's why I'm bored with it.
[20:48] <DriftRoot> I can see, ok...but I don't LIKE it.
[20:48] <Kionon> Vlad can do, and has done, better.
[20:48] <ngsilver> he did a better job with In the Navy
[20:48] <Serv0> Hmmm...I can see Vlad reading this log and tottally not giving a shit about what any of us says. Because let's be honest here guys, the man has been around for a long long time. This is like when an audience member says to Martin Scorscese, "I didn't like The Departed. And I think you should've done this instead." Scoresese is just going to say, "FUCK YOU."
[20:48] <Kionon> Orange Five-0, as an example.
[20:48] <quadir> our anime club organizer entertained just with notepad on a projector
[20:49] <quadir> live audiences are weird, I don't understand them
[20:49] <dokidoki> notepad rules!
[20:49] <DriftRoot> quadir: would that be sketch comedy?
[20:49] <Kionon> UGH
[20:49] <Serv0> quadir, Con audiences especially scare me. They're worse than a prep rally.
[20:49] <DriftRoot> :E
[20:49] <godix> Note: I'm not saying I would have loved it at a con. Just I can see why it was loved at a con.
[20:50] * Kionon sets +b driftroot
[20:50] <DriftRoot> Yah, but this still isn't going in my Arena AMV book
[20:50] <DriftRoot> er...
[20:50] <godix> Rule #1 for if a con audience will like it: Would it make a 15 year old girl low on sleep and high on sugar squeel?
[20:50] <ngsilver> I can see why it could have been enjoyed at a con, I'm not really sure it could do the same in the crowds that gather at AMV Wars events
[20:51] <ngsilver> which says alot, since they tend to be the bottom of the berrel when it comes to intelegence
[20:51] <godix> ngsilver: Vlad does simple wholesome humor. AFAIK amv wars does not.
[20:51] <DriftRoot> Oy, tell me about it...I got stuck between a whole bunch of them at Anime Boston this year...Misa Misa on one side...she was so perfect it was frightening.
[20:51] <ngsilver> we do pg-13
[20:52] <godix> Cause late at night you don't gotta get that 15 year old squeeling, you gotta get the 30 year old cynical pedo laughing.
[20:52] <DriftRoot> Well it's good to know I'm not a cynical pedo.
[20:52] <ngsilver> amv wars does day events too
[20:52] <Serv0> Okay okay. Would we say that this video accomplished it's goals that it wanted?
[20:52] <ngsilver> that vid couldn't cut it at our hentai events
[20:52] <Kionon> DriftRoot: you're a glass half full pedo?
[20:52] <godix> Oh? Didn't know that. I thought it was basically a hentai type vid thing
[20:53] <DriftRoot> No: not unless this is a shot glass we're talking about.
[20:53] <DriftRoot> And if so, then I want it on the rocks, straight up.
[20:53] <DriftRoot> Man I need to go to bed...
[20:53] <godix> Anyway, back to the video at hand, I think I'm ready to leave final comments although I don't know about you guys.
[20:53] <Kionon> Serv0: Yes. It took con awards. It was directed at the audience that recieved it well, and that isn't us.
[20:53] <Kionon> Final comments go.
[20:54] <godix> I can see why the video was popular at a con. For home viewing it just falls flat in to many spots and doesn't tie its theme together well enough to really like. There were a couple decent segments but at least 50% of this was just fail.
[20:54] <DriftRoot> But is that all Vlad wanted out of this video? I don't know...from reading his comments I think he wanted more than that.
[20:55] <Serv0> Personally, I don't like this vid much, but I'm assuming Vlad didn't edit this for my kind. It accomplishes its goals that it wanted and that's it. It doesn't offer too little, nor does it offer more than it promised.
[20:55] <ngsilver> it had its moments, few and short lived. I wouldn't show it to friends. In a large crowd atmosphere it might do well, though I think that largely depends on the crowds
[20:55] <quadir> dokidoki: you at least showed AMVs... when the comp wasn't crapping out on codecs
[20:55] <Kionon> I was midly entertained during the first run through. I have no interest in watching it a second time. Although I might just watch the Transformers segment if I do.
[20:55] <DriftRoot> The technical aspects of this AMV smoothed over a lof of the bumps, for me, but you've got to do more than that to have a great AMV, especially when it comes to comedy. Comedy needs that extra something special...and for me, this didn't have it.
[20:56] <godix> Oh, and just because how many times do you get to insult an admin and I ain't passing that up, even my cat knows that lipsync does not = funny and we're talking about an animal so stupid it still thinks my shoes are it's kitty litter. This video stinks worse than the cat piss in my shoe.
[20:56] <Kionon> Don't hold back godix. That's not like you. Tell us how you really feel.
[20:56] <DriftRoot> I hope you don't wear those shoes.
[20:56] <Serv0> godix, unfortunately, so far this conversation doesn't qualify in insulting to both you and my standards.
[20:57] <godix> Serv0: I'm tired and semi-distracted by my wife. Give me a break. I haven't given the video a star rating yet. I'll come up with a better insult for the QC.
[20:57] <Serv0> Although I've said this once and I'll say it again. That VA sounded as if he had the mother fucking jizzed clap.
[20:57] <DriftRoot> lol
[20:58] <dokidoki> quadir: That was before I knew about VLC. (and CCCP, maybe)
[20:59] <quadir> dokidoki: true that, mplayer!
[20:59] <quadir> what's bonus?
[20:59] <DriftRoot> no bonus, Kio has to go
[20:59] <Kionon> No bonus today.
[21:00] <DriftRoot> to the bank...
[21:00] <godix> Anyone wanna pull a bonus out their ass?
[21:00] <Kionon> Yes, so I can buy my tickets.
[21:00] <Kionon> and with that
[21:00] <quadir> here's bonus then: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5077055591
[21:00] * Kionon is now known as Kio-Gone
[21:00] <DriftRoot> I could, but I need to run off too.
[21:00] <quadir> a gaming q3 video
[21:00] <quadir> with a lot more thought put into the musical pacing and effects then most AMVs
[21:01] <DriftRoot> Night guys, good luck with that little contest of your's godix
[21:01] * DriftRoot has quit IRC (Quit: DriftRoot)
[21:01] <godix> quadir: But in the end it's still jsut some guy running around shooting to the beat?
[21:01] <quadir> godix: no, there
[21:02] <godix> floating guns to the beat.
[21:02] <quadir> godix: there's a lot of light work, complete effects like helmet overlays
[21:02] <Serv0> pfff...trivia question. What theme song is this from?
[21:02] <quadir> godix: lots of majestic slowmos
[21:02] <quadir> Serv0: batman
[21:02] <Serv0> wrong
[21:02] <quadir> one of those
[21:02] <quadir> spiderman
[21:02] <quadir> superman
[21:02] <quadir> done
[21:03] <quadir> this video is very old
[21:03] <Serv0> Spiderman the first one, composed by Danny Elfman.
[21:03] <quadir> godix: you appreciate it more in high rez too, like I have it :)
[21:03] <Serv0> It's the theme song played during the opening credits.
[21:03] <quadir> Serv0: right
[21:04] <godix> quadir: Action videos have always been one of my least favorite genres. You know why? Because there's never anything explaining it. It's just random violence with no point.
[21:04] <quadir> godix: you're right the majority is just really good beat matching to explosions, but I think it contributes enough otherwise to lift itself into some kind of action editing category
[21:05] <godix> It's kinda like if you saw just the matrix fights with none of that boring plot stuff. You'd think it sucks. Which is why most people don't like Matrix 2 much.
[21:05] <quadir> the final credit sequence itself was brilliant at the time
[21:05] <Serv0> Matrix 2 sucks
[21:05] <quadir> with the glow/blur on it, was just completely mesmerizing
[21:05] <Serv0> Matrix 3 sucks even more
[21:05] <Serv0> and you guys say I have no taste in movies. Well I say YOU GUYS LIKE SHIT!
*SNIP* - babbling about matrix awhile before we kinda sorta got back on topic.
[21:10] <Serv0> As for the action genre of music videos, the genre itself almost limits the originality of its creator. So i'm not a big fan of it either.
[21:11] <Serv0> I mean if I wanted to watch the action scenes, I would go and WATCH THE ACTUAL SOURCE.
[21:11] <godix> I like a well done crossover action video. Action/drama. Action/suspense. Action/comedy even. But a pure action vid is just boring
[21:24] <G_Q> Again, sorry for my absence this time.
[21:25] <G_Q> I just remembered that I needed important stuff -_-;
[21:25] <Serv0> G_Q, we really didn't cover much, other than the vid is meant for a Con.
[21:25] <G_Q> True.
[21:25] <G_Q> I've seen this in front of an audience, though.
[21:26] <G_Q> It was pretty hilarious in that venue.
[21:26] <G_Q> Vlad brought it along with him to Tekko a few weeks ago.
[21:26] <G_Q> Previewed it for the Friday Night AMV Contest crowd.
[21:27] <Serv0> Were you at the Sakura Con?
[21:27] <G_Q> No, Tekkoshocon.
[21:27] <Serv0> ah.
[21:27] <G_Q> I was AMV Staff with Lynn and Vlad
[21:27] <G_Q> It was fun times.
[21:28] <G_Q> http://tekkoshocon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10746
[21:28] <Serv0> Yeah, basically, we said that it was perfect for a con audience. It's just that i personally, didn't dig it because...I'm not a con person much.
[21:28] <Serv0> or at least as much. I give it a so so to okay rating.
[21:29] <G_Q> I thought the Naruto-Trek segment was a surprise.
[21:29] <G_Q> Being a Transfan, you can easily tell I loved the YMCA bit.
[21:29] <Serv0> that was my personal and only favorite part actually. Just because I got to see footage of the original Star Trek cartoon.
[21:29] <G_Q> Overall, it is an audience film, but one that gets the crowd laughing.
[21:30] <Serv0> I'm a Transfan too, but I didn't dig the YMCA bit. Probably due to the fact that I hate hate hate that song.
[21:30] <G_Q> And that's important, since the Tekko list had a few WTFs in Comedy.
[21:30] <G_Q> And most likely ACen will, also.
[21:30] <godix> I see it being one of those thing you watch in a crowd, you laugh, and the next day someone mentions it and you go 'oh yeah, forgot about that...'
