It is a possible argument of discuss? Let's see

[[Mike of the Desert]]

What do you actually think about Whisper of the Beast? With my friend, in the end we found us talking about something like 'Whisper of the Beast VS Euphoria', and, thinking, it is not a simple question. They are completely but completely different videos, with different concepts. And the fact that for now let me hold back to say my opinion.. Is the important particular that.. Euphoria is made by one person. WOTB about an ULTD.. Even if I don't know how much they are. Anyway I would like to see if this can be an argument of discussion!

[bum]

Unless their two very similar amv's released by two people at the exact same time, or you want to discus heavy video editing theory, is their realy a point in comparing two amv's?

[Kalium]

I don't think heavy editing theory actually exists yet.

[[Mike of the Desert]]

Unless their two very similar amv's released by two people at the exact same time, or you want to discus heavy video editing theory, is their realy a point in comparing two amv's?

You have right. Yup.. mm.. You let me think o.o This is new for me

[pen-pen2002]

What no one else has taken CompSci 277: Advanced AMV editing styles?

Actually both Euphoria and Whisper have a bit of a storied past. Euphoria because of the effect on conceptions of AMV efffects and it's unconventional software. Whisper was apparently a group effort. There is a documentary on the making of the latter video, I think I'll watch that to see if I can get a better idea of how it was done.

Keep in mind though, Whisper for all it's amazingness has not had the kind of effect on the comunity that Euphoria did.

[Bote]

"Whisper of the beast" is a good vid, but people really exaggerate about some of its aspects. For example, in the VCA nominations many people said it's the best action vid they've seen. I find that absolutely dull. It's not even a whole out action vid. It's main aspects are great story-telling and dramatic moments.

The action parts are it's weakest point actually. Refrains were done pretty average and instead of focusing to the actual rhytm the creators focused more on doing Naruto's Sharingan, which itself was a good idea. Straight cuts with occassional and at times inaccurate drum synchs aren't what I'd call a good action vid.

We all know why "Euphoria" is No.1, so I'm not gonna repeat. To me personally "Euphoria" is a better vid due to a simple fact that I can find only few minor errors in fades. On the other hand WOTB has a lot of fade errors and is at times inconsistent. The creators could have tried to do the timing better, especially focusing on the guitars more since the riffing is very powerful.

ScorpionsUTD just didn't exploit the song to the max, while Koop payed attention to every little detail.

[Otohiko]

WotB is made by two editors, who go by names of 'Alex' and 'Strange'. Contrary to popular believe, they're not members of AKROSS - but they're pretty active members of AKROSS' community.

I don't believe collaboration like that is in itself a new phenomenon, but the quality of the video certainly shows a great deal of conceptual and visual unity. This, to an extent, is what I hope to see from larger multi-editor videos eventually.

As far as comparing their video to Euphoria, I think it's pretty pointless - there's few objective factors to base that judgement on. Musically, visually and conceptually they're completely different 'beasts' so to speak. Show me at least a single similarity between them, other then the vague 'well, they're both AMV's'.

Personally, I think neither of them should be taken as an example. An illustration of what can be done with effects, composition and editing - yes. A gold standard of what AMV's should be like - no. The reason they stood out is because they were remarkable clips in the right place, at the right time.

[Castor Troy]

This is about as pointless as the vs. threads in general anime.

[[Mike of the Desert]]

I really quote bote about the fact that it is not right to call it an action vid. It has some excellent and 'new' effects on Beats and drums, but it is not even an action Amv. But it is anyway really.. A R T.

Whisper of the Beast is art, every clip has a proper significate and all is made like a creator do a draw. All is sincerely perfect as how the creators wanted to do it. Euphoria, either, is something different, but that as is been said, take a really more attention to the music and synch factor, within the high strenght of the significate. Mmmmmmm.. Thinking.

[dwchang]

This is about as pointless as the vs. threads in general anime.

x2

We're "arguing" over personal preferences and tastes.