footage stealing --Has this ever happened to you?

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:21 pm

Now that the org is back up I can ask my question. I was surfing my usual p2p program and downloaded an interesting AMV. I started watching and noticed something very disturbing…It was using footage that was created by me. That irked me to some content but here’s the kicker. The video itself was about 3 minutes long but it had a whole 10 minutes on the player’s clock. I let the bastard creation play on and all of a sudden I start hearing the song, almost the entire song that was on my video. Now I’m not one to blow up over a little footage of mine was being used, but not even removing all of the song that I used…either they have very little or no real brain power or they don’t know what the hell they doing. Oh well, enough ranting. So what I want to ask is this:

Has anything like this ever happen to anyone else?

Shouldn’t just be basic netiquette that they ask the person that went to all the trouble of creating the footage to use before they start using other people’s footage? I mean if the of the original creator has website or an email address is sitting there right at the beginning of the video you’d think they’d have half a mind to take a little bit of time to ask if they could use the footage? Maybe it’s just the principal of it all. I could also stir up other thoughts in my head but the hell with it; I’ll save those thoughts for another day.

Chaos Angel · Post by **Chaos Angel** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:04 pm

What do you mean when you say that it had 10 minutes on the players clock, that the video went longer than the projected time?

Personally, I think you should NEVER use footage from other people's videos to make your own video, especially if that person did something special with the footage.

(1) It gives you a greater sense of accomplishment to figure out the effect for yourself.

(2) I don't think you should EVER claim someone elses' work as your own (which is why I put a disclaimer on my videos).

(3) It is the same as using a digi-sub; the quality isn't as good as it would be if you ripped the footage yourself.

You choose Sam,the rest · Post by **You choose Sam,the rest** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:33 pm

Well it hasnt happen to me yet but it has happen to Silver Moon. Some guy thought he could rip her video "In My Arms" and put it to different music. Thank god I told her....

silver_moon · Post by **silver_moon** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:45 pm

Yes, I appreciate being told about that, YCSTR... I actually know of a few people who have had this happen.

My video was completely effects-ized, and the video used solely footage from my video... nothing else... just my video. I can tell you, my effects were not hard to recognize and I let him know that. He told me in return that the video was meant to be a re-make of my video. This kind of disturbed me... because he remade it to Linkin Park, of all things. And he had said no where that he had not made these effects, and he had made no indication that it was supposed to be a remake of someone else's video.

After I complained, it now says in his video discription "Original AMV by Silver_Moon." That's not exactly very informative, but it's better than nothing I guess. The same person did this to one of Fluxmeister's videos too. Hopefully he'll ask permission before he does that again... it made me feel so terrible that he had set my hours and hours of work to a song I hated...

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:56 pm

Someone took my entire piccolo video and re-edited it to some ramstien song.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:58 pm

On the bright side, you know that you've really made it when people start ripping off of your work.

...sort of.

Chef · Post by **Chef** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:20 pm

people are gonna hate me...

I HAVE MADE ALL OF MY VIDS THAT WAY!!!

because i dont have a dvdrom, so i cant make rips, or a capture card. i do make it a point tho to really try not to use pre edited footage...hate me see if i care.

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:31 pm

You can't really stop people from doing it, but at least you kow that no one is ever going to make a good award winning video by stealing footage. It is always going to be lower quality, in addition to the small chance it may be recognized as being ripped off and lose respect or orginality points.

I know it's more a principal thing though. It ticks you off when it happens to you. Unless they are stealing bumpers though, it really doesn't even fall into the intellectual property catagory. It wouldn't be a big deal to me at all, but there are contests out there...contests that you could potentially win by not using your own work. If it weren't for that, I'd have little beef against the whole thing, myself.

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:01 am

[quote="MistyCaldwell"]You can't really stop people from doing it, but at least you kow that no one is ever going to make a good award winning video by stealing footage. It is always going to be lower quality, in addition to the small chance it may be recognized as being ripped off and lose respect or orginality points.[quote]

That's it. I now have a mission. To make a music video entirely out of clips taken from other music videos and win an award with it. Of course my original plan was just to rip off other people's music videos, but I suppose I could always add on the award bit.

temaranight · Post by **temaranight** » Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:17 am

As you can tell on my vids...IMHO......I'd rather use less than DVD qualitly footage ( although it's not THAT bad damn it

) than to rip off someone elses hard work....it's just not respectful...and to redo a person's whole vid...that to me is a slap in the face to the orginal creator....