The end of AMVs: a look back

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby You Know Who really » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:11 pm

I made mine back in the 90's. I had an advantage in that I had access to professional gear. 1" tape, cmx editor & Grass Valley Switchers. Still I did the videos with cuts & dissolves. No effects. Certainly nothing like we have today. I've "judged" a few AMV contests. I tend to take points off for too many effects. "Effects do not a movie make" I lean toward the idea that if you can't tell a story with cuts and dissolves, then maybe you shouldn't be telling the story. Sorry I offend some people. I wonder if we can have a AMV contest for videos that only use cuts. I wonder how many entries we would have. Anyway can I get a "hurumph!!!"

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby Sephirothskr » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:41 am

You Know Who really wrote:
FoxJones wrote:
ngsilver wrote:Lucky you with a/b levers. I had 2 VCRs and a CD player....

I remember people that made videos with those equipments were like gods to me..


I used to work for a company that sold trinity systems, among other NLE systems.


You're... pretty good! That is pretty sweet though. I've heard the horrors and painstaking processes of linear style editing, so I imagine NLE changed the world as we know it at the time. I grew up with having a windows movie maker readily available, so I can't imagine not having that kind of editing!
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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby You Know Who really » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:17 am

Linear editing wasn't THAT horrible. It just forced you to plan out your project ahead of time. Before you spend $500-$1000/hr for an online edit suite, you would make a OFFLINE cut of the program (usually on VHS or 3/4"), so you would have an EDL (edit decision list) that you could hand over to the online editor. This saved TIME/MONEY. If you got halfway into the program and wanted to make a change near the beginning that affected time, then yes, you would have to redo ALL the edits after that change. I wasn't too difficult because it was still computer based, but you still lost time.
NLEs came out and made changing edits a LOT easier. However I believe NLEs tended to make producers a lot lazier.
Anyway, those are my thoughts

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby CeliaPhantomhive » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:37 am

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby LongLiveHumour » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:11 pm

I used <i>Windows Movie Maker</i>.

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby Gokusanjj » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:50 pm

They aren't dead for me if I still enjoy watching them.

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby DopplerDo » Thu May 04, 2017 8:21 pm

It really doesn't sound like AMVs are dead or even seem like. It just seems like people are increasingly driven insane by a lack of views. In my opinion, twinks who only care about a song and the one anime they've watched are not my favorite audience to edit for anyway, so it hardly matters :p.

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby xXxXREMNANTXxXx » Sun May 14, 2017 11:49 pm

I'd like to share my story here as I feel I can relate to the opposing end of the initial post.

Back when I started I was that 13 year old... who was about 15... and at 1st I will not lie I was all over the joint - I did 1 of the most CLICHE things ever and just put a fight to some music and went "AMV Innit!".
After so long It kinda became more like Episode recaps with music and some quotes, still not very original though. I'd like to say more but my other YT channel has been banned so I cant look at stuff and say accurately when it changed but I did 1 video that turned out to be very popular so I ran with it whilst using filler such as fights and recaps just to try hone my limited skills.
In about a year I had managed to produce Coherent^1 Videos but only to a degree. I was only 15 though so I was dumb.
By about September that year I was trying to join a studio so I participated in their beta battle and had developed a style or 2 (High Impact Fights^2 and Emotional Subplots developed^3)
After so long I developed a style of using the music in the song to depict a similar visual scene but whilst trying to maintain the integrity of the the song and relay my own meaning over the video basically making it a very transformitive video or I would practice tight edits (beat FX) OR i would try to tell the animes story through the song.
I try to keep to that style now but sometimes I have a few lapses and deviate slightly.

[*]^1 Videos with a sense of direction like https://youtu.be/sg7D-v-mR90
[*]^2 More action orientated videos
[*]^3 Drawing out a full subplot that lingers and making everything about that particular thing https://youtu.be/aiREVlee8tk


I think that most people who got into AMV making did just want to put their favorite song to their fav anime and their fav scene but for me its like a way of expressing myself. I'm a real asshole and not many people know I can portray sensitive and loving very easily - they think I have no social skills and that I'd rather be playing games than talking to them (Though thats usually true) when in actuality in my head I hear a song and see nothing so I want to fill that black with something interesting but something that also makes sense and that anyone can follow easily.
Like this took me from July 6 to concept, imagine, edit and post and I feel that half the views my early stuff got is useless and worthless when you think about the work that went into this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rUR1w6nW-4

I think now AMVs are dyeing but can be revived, Even if AMVs are broken into Subs they can still live.
But thats my opinion and story.

(Sorry for all the plugs but frankly it was the only way to show any form of progress over the years)

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Re: The end of AMVs: a look back

Postby 8bit_samurai » Mon May 15, 2017 7:16 pm

If anything, the Org did really quiet down since I first joined, though some would say that's an understatement. Times change, people change, and speaking of change, the two major changes I can think of that widely affected this community since I joined is social media and youtube. I suppose technology has changed too, but I don't think that has as big of an impact as the other two. AMVs are still around, ya just gotta look for them and filter them out.

In terms of internet years and how old this site is, I'm surprised it's still around; and I'm glad it is since it's nice to see old faces post every now and then.
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