I make amvs for fun!

[Knowname]

After going to AWA at least 3 times, I'm sure all of this drama only exists in the mind.

yeah, unfortunately I live with my mind o.0

[EvaFan]

To be honest, I never considered making amv's fun... Cept editing to dance songs but then again even that's rare... Watching them is the fun part overall. I make videos as a form of expressing my self through this hobby. Peoples comments make me want to learn more and improve. There isn't much more to it then that. Editing isn't fun, watching what you have edited is.... Usually >_>...

[SQ]

When you're a member of a community, you are influenced by those around you. When you want to show something to your peer group, you want to impress your peers.

The org has existed since... what? 2000? And in those days, people practically had to be engineers to operate video editing equipment, let alone get source to be edited. They had to get their own hosting to link their videos (or leech off of some kinder people ) and it was, generally speaking, much harder to make and distribute a video.
Because of that, you didn't want to spend all that time and effort for a piece of crap, or something you didn't like. And generally, when you got the word out, you wanted it out big -- so a lot of editors were active on the forums.

Nowadays, it's pretty easy to make a music video. Most people don't even rip DVDs any more. They pluck stuff from the internet and put it in a free or pirated editing program, spend 2 hours on it and call halluejah. In fact, it isn't even that hard to make a decent music video these days, as long as you have a good ear and some decent quality source.

In my view, there's some jealousy going on. AMVing has become somewhat of a solitary do it and ditch hobby, whereas before it was, for the most part, a cooperative effort.
"You don't know what you kids have these days" and such. "We had to walk to school, up hill both ways", and such.

It's become easier to make a decent music video, and therefore it's become harder to make a video that impresses people. And let's face it - people on this site aren't just making videos for themselves. They're making videos in attempt to get critisism, a pat on the back, and/or impress people.

People will do stupid things in order to become popular. Most of the "kids next door" as you call them, probably went to Youtube because it's a.) more popular b.) easier to upload & View things and c.) has more positive feedback and views.

I've done stupid things to become popular on the internet, even this site (as I'm sure some of you know =_=). People want to be accepted by their peer groups, and in order to do that, will go so far as to make AMVing another job -- if that's what it takes to become somebody they look up to's friend, or get noticed.

I talk on other forums, and generally the opinion of the .org on those other sites is "an ego-filled cesspool of elitists." Generally, it's understandable... Because if you look at us, that's... Kind of what we are.

But I've always looked at the .org as a "serious hobbist community" rather than just "a vidding community". What would be the point of coming to the .org for only archiving? I come to the .org for all the extra features: forums, stars, ops, awards, etc. PLUS, do you see anyone who isn't on the org getting panels about AMVs (99% of the time)?

Hell, there's another incentive right there to be part of our elitist cesspool - you get to be closer to the big guys who run AMV contests. In rare cases, anime companies. Get popular on the .org - do an easter egg for an anime DVD -- It's happened before.

So yes, maybe we are taking ourselves too seriously (for the most part). But I like that this site taking editing seriously. If I only wanted to make AMVs for fun, and not to show off to other people, then I'd go some place else (and there are other places, trust me).

To me, I find this site as an incredible resource for guides and editing in general. You can connect to people in authority over cons and video industry, and gain valuable advice. There's a mountain here waiting to be climbed. And I know I'm not a famous name here, but someday I'll fucking climb it.

[Prodigi]

Maybe some of you kids won't get this, but us adults don't wanna come home to our 2nd (3rd or 4th) job. For a kid who doesn't have a job, the extra responsibility's just sound cool *.*

This statement irks/angers me.

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[CodeZTM]

Whoa. Topic out of thin air!

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Well, this may sound strange, but AMV's are a sort of stress relief to me. I have a job (about 6-8 hours a day after school), taking three AP classes, taking college prepatory exams, and trying hard to keep it all together. So, I'm very stressed when I get home at about 10 o'clock at night, and still have about 2-3 hours of homework to do. So, during the weekend (or occasionally at work when I have nothing to do, like right now ^_^), I have AMV's. They are my vent. I can throw away all the issues I face each day during the school week, and just be a regular person. So by making AMV's, watching AMV's, working in MEP's, and giving opinions/guidlines to other members, I can feel relieved. Making AMV's is not a job to me, though sometimes I do work hard on them. If you truely love a hobby, then you'll enjoy it, even if it takes a little bit of work.

Having only been in this hobby for about a year and a half, I'm not really in with the total communitty, so I'm sure my opinion is biased. I look forward to next year in college when I'm planning on attending AWA.

AMV's, are by no means, a job.

Now to put that into org speak: If you don't submit to conventions and you don't participate in contests and you don't join competitive studios and you stay away from MEPs where you must be judged worthy to participate, then you're not a competitor. You're a casual person making amvs available to anyone who happens to be interested in them. If they like them, cool, they know where to find more of the same. If they don't, cool, they know not to go look in that profile again. If they feel obligated - by some moral duty to reform and correct bad editors - fine, say your peace and go look for someone who meets your standards. Some people don't want to be chefs, but they still enjoy making snacks for the kids next door.

I also agree with this totally. I've had many people leave QC that my Furuba videos sucked, and that I'm nothing but a noob. On the other hand I've gotten several QC saying how my videos are nice and cute.

Like I've said, this is stress relief for me, so getting upset over it seems kind of stupid to me. I like my videos, and that's all that matters!

Now, back to work before my boss starts yelling.

[Serv0]

you need to get a life... no, just playin, you know, buuuut.... why???

A statement thats confusing to me and I'm sure the majority of readers on this forum.

Sorry for using the word 'professional', but that statement was highly 'unprofessional.'

More or less this topic is childish in whole because of everyones attempt to define a human's ambitions.

I personally think the AMV community is heading in the right direction in terms of shaping professionally done AMVs.

[Knowname]

Of coarse it's 'unproffesional', your not getting the point, are you??

OF COARSE it's childish! Your not getting the point are you??? I'm SCREAMING like a god-damned baby cuz I just wanna have fun!! Why can't you guys get that?? God your all dorks.

[Moonie]

I get what you are saying
You just enjoy baking nice cookies =)

[BasharOfTheAges]

Of coarse it's 'unproffesional', your not getting the point, are you??

OF COARSE it's childish! Your not getting the point are you??? I'm SCREAMING like a god-damned baby cuz I just wanna have fun!! Why can't you guys get that?? God your all dorks.

How are the actions of other people stopping you from having fun? How can you prevent this given you are of a minority opinion?

[Knowname]

How are the actions of other people stopping you from having fun?

overall?? they're not. This is a CONCERN, not for me, but that OTHERS are taking it WAY too seriously (has been mentioned several times in this thread, I hope it makes a little more sense now). I am not the one I am CONCERNED about, I will go on baking cookies for the masses or just for myself- of coarse, if I was forced to just keep my cookies to myself (ie NOT announce my videos/ put them on local) me thinks that justifys persecution. No, I just had a concern for the sanity of others is all.

The topic is 'FOR fun', not 'fun' in itself, English is a confusing language.