Are we in another slump of amvs?

[Sonydjsnmix]

The bad videos have always been there, it's more that now the good videos are becoming more formulaic.

I completely agree with this statement. Hopefully I'm not going to get bashed for saying this, but I will take a chance and say it. It reminds me of the Break The Chain amv at Otakon which won first place in drama. It has everything a good amv have, but it felt too formulaic. It's like a robot made it. Sorry Rinny if you're reading this.

I think it's the combonation of losing the old school amv feel to today's videos and original ideas are alot harder to come by.

Strangely the amv that won Coordinator's Choice wasn't announced on the Otakon finalist topic but I think this amv have a great old school amv feel to it and it seems like the creator put her heart and soul to it despite it's flaws.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... _id=160843

[Sonydjsnmix]

Strangely the amv that won Coordinator's Choice wasn't announced on the Otakon finalist topic but I think this amv have a great old school amv feel to it and it seems like the creator put her heart and soul to it despite it's flaws.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... _id=160843

I wonder if the creator does a remake of the video and sync it better and the footage quality goes up. Would it still have the same magic to it?

Sorry forgot to post this part...

[Sephiroth]

Nope Godix don't for get Booshack which is where a lot of people release vids, were no long the only source for amvs. Still a good one with a lot of talent just not the only one.

Just look at the AMVs released on Booshack and i'm sure the numbers will keep going up. Now they won't be going up as extreme after a while but they will still grow a bit. And thats just from one of the many vid sites out there.

[Shikii5]

mm amv slump.

[Sephiroth]

Its not gone its just harder to find, my style has been described to me as old school by a good number of people. I'm 24 and some how what i do is old. Nah i aimed to make vids outside of a particular time period.

Every time ive been tempted to do effects ive not bothered because i knew i could do the idea without them. Unless i absolutely have to do composting i don't. That according to some is old school mentality. To me that's how i edit, i did get cought up in alot of the hupla for a good while. Then i grew out of it and onto other things, perhaps thats why i'm still editing when a good number of popular editors just burned out.

Because despite whats happened the hobby has been whats important to me even when i was distracted by other things. It was still my foundation for what i did. I wanted to edit and on some level needed to in order to keep my sanity. Whatever has been going on has influenced what i edited. I never had a desire to be like a particular editor it just never sat well with me.

As for idea's those arent that hard, whatever inspires you is an idea. This also is a problem for a lot of editors which i find funny. If you can't come up with an idea you should work at it until you do, its not something that can be done with a formula you just do it.

Your idea's wont always be understood by everyone else should they. They're your thoughts not theirs. What makes you think they'll always translate perfectly.

Most of the major editors don't even bother to post on these forums because of the silly drama that'll happen over them. Because they have better things to do and will get their vids done when they will.

Me i occationally get on these forums at the org because i hope that there's at least one person out there who will get something good out of this and i need to help with that. most of the community is obsessed with wonkey silly things which will drive away relative newbies who for some reason aren't up to the insane bar from wacko-ville.

If you want to keep that old school feel as you put it, why did you get involved with this hobby in the first place, find that out and work your vids from there, you'll be much happier. Or you'll lose your center and spiral out of control. End up like several of the other elitist editors here doomed to wallow in incestuous vid doppelganging. No joy, just Misery pain and suffering.

Don't let them frighten you newbies they're worse then you and soon you'll be better then they could ever imagine. this comes form your elder according to the tribal positions on the org. Have Fun.

42 and all

[godix]

Unless i absolutely have to do composting i don't.

Don't like stirring the shit huh?

[CorpseGoddess]

Your idea's wont always be understood by everyone else should they. They're your thoughts not theirs. What makes you think they'll always translate perfectly.

I've recently gone through my own "five stages of grief" in terms of editing. I'm fairly new to this, only having edited for a couple of years. My first couple of vids were crap, but I still enjoy the concept. Since those, I've improved my technique (debatable, most likely) and have been pleased with the results. Pleased, not satisfied---I think once you're satisfied, you're done.

Anyway, I started entering my stuff into cons and getting into the finals but not winning. And putting stuff up here and receiving a lukewarm response. For a life-long perfectionist, type-A overachiever who was once in art school, this was devastating. I finally had to take a step back and realise why I'm doing this---not for acclaim or recognition, but because I enjoy it and it's fun.

Since I've come to "acceptance", I'm much happier about making my vids and the end results. I'm one of the older editors here (36) with incredibly eclectic musical tastes---and a warped mind. This has translated into ideas that result in an "oooookay..." response here. And (now) I'm okay with that.

I make amv's because I want to see them. It's the same reason I draw---I want to physically create what I see in my head. If nobody else gets it, then that's fine.

Based on that, I don't necessarily think amv's themselves are in a slump---I think our perceptions and expectations of them are. Once I stop wanting to see what's in my head, then *that's* a slump, as far as I'm personally concerned.

[thundercatlord]

Once I stop wanting to see what's in my head, then *that's* a slump, as far as I'm personally concerned.

Well said. I don't make my vids for the masses, it comes from a crazy concept in my head, that I want to see. I enjoy learning how to do new effects, trying them out, and seeing what happens. I show my vids to my close friends and family and entertain them with my hobby. So as long as I have the people around me to support my obsession, I won't be in a slump.

And yes, I feel like some have been a little desensitized by all the spectacular AMVs. If it's not an amazing, 3-D, effects heavy, sleek and sexy MP4...It's not worth watching. I also feel that sometimes you have to make a name for yourself before anyone will take notice of your work here. Otherwise, until then everyone will just be like..."meh, that was ordinary"..."Who the hell are you?"

So in short,I feel like the ORG itself is not in a slump, but perhaps some editors an in a slump.

[Chiikaboom]

In all honesty, everyone here needs to get over themselves.

AMVs started out as a hobby. Its not a hobby anymore. Its a competition where everyone is striving for perfection. Because of certain 'epic' amvs, most people here have set there standards so high, that anything below it isnt acceptable. It doesnt matter how good an amv is, theres always someone out there who will literally rip it to shreds because it gives them some kind of ego boost.

No one appreciates the effort put into anything anymore. I've never said that an amv sucks, unless the video deliberately intended to suck. There are many ways to say you dont like an amv, like "its not my cup of tea", "sorry i couldn't really get into it", etc, following the comment with constructive criticism. All i see here is "this amv sucks", "wow that was disappointing", with the person going through and describing each and every second of the amv and tearing it apart. It is NOT helping the editor get better and it sure as feck isnt going to do much for their self esteem.

And I also get horribly irritated with how noobs are treated here, such as posting a youtube link on the announcements thread. Just tell them that its against the rules and ask them to catalog it, then lock the thread. Of course all i ever see is comments about how much of a noob the person is, and the famous "inbeforewtfisboochsack", which, really, if you're trying to be funny, its been done so much that it isnt funny anymore. Seriously, we're all noobs once, but for the ones who make typical noob mistakes here, they never get a second chance.

To conclude, you all sicken me. I hate you all.

-goes back to editing unoriginal crappy quality fugly effect whored amv-

[CorpseGoddess]

In all honesty, everyone here needs to get over themselves.

AMVs started out as a hobby. Its not a hobby anymore. Its a competition where everyone is striving for perfection. Because of certain 'epic' amvs, most people here have set there standards so high, that anything below it isnt acceptable. It doesnt matter how good an amv is, theres always someone out there who will literally rip it to shreds because it gives them some kind of ego boost.

No one appreciates the effort put into anything anymore. I've never said that an amv sucks, unless the video deliberately intended to suck. There are many ways to say you dont like an amv, like "its not my cup of tea", "sorry i couldn't really get into it", etc, following the comment with constructive criticism. All i see here is "this amv sucks", "wow that was disappointing", with the person going through and describing each and every second of the amv and tearing it apart. It is NOT helping the editor get better and it sure as feck isnt going to do much for their self esteem.

And I also get horribly irritated with how noobs are treated here, such as posting a youtube link on the announcements thread. Just tell them that its against the rules and ask them to catalog it, then lock the thread. Of course all i ever see is comments about how much of a noob the person is, and the famous "inbeforewtfisboochsack", which, really, if you're trying to be funny, its been done so much that it isnt funny anymore. Seriously, we're all noobs once, but for the ones who make typical noob mistakes here, they never get a second chance.

To conclude, you all sicken me. I hate you all.

-goes back to editing unoriginal crappy quality fugly effect whored amv-

I was going to post something pithy, but at the end...

...thanks for posting what I haven't had the balls to, yet I've thought all along.