Ek leaving... and maybe me too

Machine · Post by **Machine** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:46 am

Ok, time to come out with my version on this subject...or what I think of it at least. I'm coming out of the closet....haha

But seriously everyone, this may sound odd to everyone but when I first started out couple years ago, people who gave me great artistic inpiration were Hsien(kusoyaro), Will (Aluminum), Joe (Mabrohoshi), Jason (RYS) Eric Jones (FlyHigh),...etc, there are more I can name. Even though Hsien adn Will were my primary inpirations. I think these 5 creators mentioned above are what founded the definition of ART within the anime music videos these past few years.

Each one followed their own path and made videos that they wanted to make and didn't how you say...."Sell Out" to the audience. As strange as it sounds, I somewhat love and hate crowd pleasers. It's not about pleasing the crowd, its about giving a message in the work you make to others....but if you ask me, the org is starting to be filled with nothing but ignorant masses that whine about how one person didn't like their video or something....

I totally agree with Joe on this one that the review system needs major work. At first I was happy to get reviews, now I hardly care because Ihardly get any reviews that are worth reading anymore. Out like 12 opinions for 1 video, I'll be lucky if at least 1 person gets the true meaning of an AMV and the message within it.

So do I care that people like EK and Joe are leaving? Fuck yea!
These are people who gave us the definition of art within AMVs and having some smartass on this board telling them to leave pisses me off. But then again there is very little I can do now.

I'm still trying to convince Joe not to leave because to be quite honest, and I'm not saying this to be cocky, but there are only a few of us AMV creators in this place that have a true grasp of what art is within an AMV.

Watching people like EK and Joe leave this place makes it tough on me and I'm sure to alot of others.

Well, thats what I think anyways.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:10 am

Very nicely said, Carlos

Org Profile · Post by **MaboroshiStudio** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:35 am

Declan_Vee
Am I speaking Greek or another language? The basic point of this is stating that i think a-m-v.org should get back to why it was created and that was to be a database for all videos not a popularity contest. The concept of the crit / review system is very sound, but that is when it is being used properly and currently I think it used more often as a voting system for person's favorite videos. Maybe there should be thumbs up / middle / down for people who don't want to write a review? I know the basic idea of the people giving perfect 10s is because they love the video, but that isn't a review. So why not have the thumb system in addition to reviews for people who just want to give their favorite video praise? Anyone else like this idea?

Eek-1 · Post by **Eek-1** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:37 am

My problem was with the current reviewing system and that I think a better alternative solution could be devised.

I agree that the standard is poor and some reviews I have are very amateurish. I personally think that there are still members who don't quite understand the system (partly because b4 'that' the site lacked an in-depth opinion guide, but now, even it's there, some ppl didnt noticed it.) And then there are some people, who, instead of writing reviews that try to help the creator, they will just write brief and useless comments just to be quick... Now, is this a flaw in the system or the fault of selfish people? The same q can be asked with regards to how long it takes to get a review. Many people are willing to upload their vids and after that they bitch about it having over 1000 download hits but only one review, but these are usually the same people who contribute nothing to the community. Now I'm not saying this to you, but to the other members (you know who you are.)

Instead of complaining and letting Phade do the hard work, how about getting into the scene and do your part (and do better?) I did quite a few a while back, my first few ones were very brief and useless, but I always tried learning to write better opinions. RubyEye's Dark Legacy is my latest one. I'd write some more reviews and re-edit the old ones but a very tight schedule and 36.6kbps connection speed at the nearest Internet cafe makes it hard for me to spend some time downloading new videos. But that's my problem.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:55 am

ek1 wrote:I agree that the standard is poor and some reviews I have are very amateurish. I personally think that there are still members who don't quite understand the system (partly because b4 'that' the site lacked an in-depth opinion guide, but now, even it's there, some ppl didnt noticed it.)

I'm not sure what you're referring to as "that," but ZeWrestler and iserlohn wrote a Guide to Opinions that, in my opinion, is very indepth and has helped me write better quality reviews. It was created 1/9/01, which is been here longer than I have been a member, and was created a week after Joe signed up.

The Great Wang · Post by **The Great Wang** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:45 pm

It was created 1/9/01, which is been here longer than I...

uh, the date for the opinion guide should be a typo, it should say 2002 rather than 2001 so the guide isn't that old, i'm pretty sure. If it was in 2001, it's oldest guide.[/quote]

Wonka · Post by **Wonka** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:46 pm

punistation wrote:
"Will you go out with me punistation?" - WONK~san
Yes.

Kisses XXOOXX
Jen

Woohoo!!

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:59 pm

Wang: Perhaps. I remember it always being there, but I could be wrong. Perhaps iserlohn could tell us...

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 1:10 pm

It was made after I joined.

SpPANDA · Post by **SpPANDA** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 1:11 pm

maybe i should leave too.

HA. i'll leave when phade leaves.