Do you think the overrated ideas will EVER die down?

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Post by The Wired Knight » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:54 pm

Overated ideas don't die they just fade away.

The overated videos typically slow down but that's only because everyone moves on to some other anime and thus a new overated idea starts showing up.

The funniest thing is that the bands however never seem to fade away

Linkin Park + Eva
Linkin Park + DBZ
Linkin Park + Naruto

Seriously, I wish Linkin Park would just go away then maybe we'd stop having to hear them in flood of AMVs.
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Post by BauziOLD » Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:25 pm

I have nothing against Linkin Park, but a lot of editors (and in specialy new ones) don´t see that it is more than hard to get out the flow of an LP song.
I think they are sometimes one of the hardest songs for editing...
Or would think that you can bring up the power and flow of Faint with an amv?
I doubt I could.
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Post by Gepetto » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:08 am

-Bauzi- wrote:I have nothing against Linkin Park, but a lot of editors (and in specialy new ones) don´t see that it is more than hard to get out the flow of an LP song.
I think they are sometimes one of the hardest songs for editing...
Or would think that you can bring up the power and flow of Faint with an amv?
I doubt I could.
True. The songs are fast-paced and there's a lot of diffeent sounds going on. The flood of crap made with LP music makes people lose sight of the fact that, if someone ever manages to do something good with it, it'll be very good.
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Post by BauziOLD » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:04 am

Or not, because a lot of copy cats would come alog.
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Post by Gepetto » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:41 am

copycats can come along any number of times, but that doesn't diminish the quality of the original. If that were the case, no one would still read Shakespeare, Byron, Eça or any of the other classic authors (not to mention Plato and Aristotle).
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Post by Kionon » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:53 am

Nothing is overrated if the right editor comes along.
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Post by Otohiko » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:28 pm

I honestly don't think it matters how many times something is done. What matters is how many times something is done well (whatever well happens to be).

I don't know, to be honest, I don't think I'll ever get tired of AMVs that don't suck. Or of anything that doesn't suck. I mean hell, don't YOU re-watch your favorite AMVs all the time? Favorites don't even get old, IMHO, however many times you watch them.

On the other hand, something becoming a favorite is both a matter of taste and a matter of having a certain set of qualities. And the problem with overused sources is often not one of quantity but that of quality.
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Post by Illia Sadri » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:11 pm

I agree with those, albiet in a bit less blunt terms than godix, that while the overdone vids are very much overdone, it is easy to ignore them. Tired of LinkinBallZ? don't look it up. If you see one getting a lot of good feedback good reviews wtc wtc and seems some effort went into ti and you feel like checking it out then do so.

However I think is is just closed minded to automatically hate videos just because it uses a popular anime as much as it is silly to dislike a vid that might use older or more obscure sources. I might think that most Naruto vids are complete garbage or that Advent Children vids are repetitive, but if someone goes all out and makes something pretty decent to it or does something different? Then I am going to like that video. Same with a show I may abhor. Heck i think there are some vids that are better than the shows they used.

But it is a hobby. high school kids can flood the site as much as they want with naruto and dbz vids. The well known editors also have their trends and overused anime picks. Azumanga Diaoh anybody? Or how about that period a couple years back when it seemed virtually every editor put out a hoshi no koe vid. Esceflowne has been used by a number of decently well known editors awhile back. I'll put down 10 bucks on a bet and a torture amv on the fact that the more popular editors will crank out the Meloncholy of Suzumiya Haruhi vids. Let's be honest... they are not shows that you will see on Cn and thus are less popular, but it fits a certain niche thing here. And editors who are above age 15 do have their own overused material.

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Post by Otohiko » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:29 pm

Illia Sadri wrote: The well known editors also have their trends and overused anime picks. Azumanga Diaoh anybody? Or how about that period a couple years back when it seemed virtually every editor put out a hoshi no koe vid. Esceflowne has been used by a number of decently well known editors awhile back. I'll put down 10 bucks on a bet and a torture amv on the fact that the more popular editors will crank out the Meloncholy of Suzumiya Haruhi vids. Let's be honest... they are not shows that you will see on Cn and thus are less popular, but it fits a certain niche thing here. And editors who are above age 15 do have their own overused material.
Right, I've never complained about "too many Azumanga videos", and I doubt I'll ever complain about "too many Haruhi videos". As long as there's a bunch among them that are darn good. And given their niche, they tend to be picked up by editors with - if not more experience - then at least a more reasoned approach to AMVs.

I guess it really is an issue of audience. Since most of the 'serious' editors that whine and bitch about this are well outside the target audience for Naruto and DBZ, it's no wonder. On the other hand, as we know well, most of the 'silent majority' that stays out (or is chased out) of the 'hardkor' community is well into that target audience.

But again, the whining does pick up a pretty good point on average quality. Unfortunately, unless you - by that I mean the generic elitist whiner - plan to personally train every young AMV neophyte while remaining tolerant of their personal anime/music preferences... I think you should shut up.

My solution to the problem of "too much sucky x, not enough awesome y!" has been "shut up and do the y yourself, fucker".
That is not a bad thing, either. That realization coincided with my starting to edit AMVs, which I wouldn't have were I not pissed about the lack of the elusive "y". Tolerating "x", as long as it stayed away from anywhere near my attention span, eventually came with it.
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Post by Beowulf » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:47 pm

The only good anime ever made is Akira, Eva, Cowboy Bebop, and Berserk.

Everything else is varying degrees of juvenile bullshit.

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