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Re: What is art?

Post by Vivaldi » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:37 pm

Vivaldi wrote:Okay, because people find playing with semantics so funny, I'll add an addendum.


-Art is anything created deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.


Please tell if you find a loophole, but all that generally means is a need to reword for semantic reasons. The meaning is the same. And art is still an objective term
-Art is anything created via skill, deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose of it's existence being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.

Masturbation is not art.
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Re: What is art?

Post by godix » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:44 pm

Vivaldi wrote:Okay, because people find playing with semantics so funny, I'll add an addendum.


-Art is anything created deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.


Please tell if you find a loophole, but all that generally means is a need to reword for semantic reasons. The meaning is the same. And art is still an objective term
So what you're saying is that Frank Lloyd Wright designs are not art because they are first and foremost meant to be functional buildings and the beauty of the design is secondary?
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Re: What is art?

Post by inthesto » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:50 pm

Mood-altering drugs and hallucinogens are art.
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Re: What is art?

Post by Vivaldi » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:58 pm

godix wrote:
Vivaldi wrote:Okay, because people find playing with semantics so funny, I'll add an addendum.


-Art is anything created deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.


Please tell if you find a loophole, but all that generally means is a need to reword for semantic reasons. The meaning is the same. And art is still an objective term
So what you're saying is that Frank Lloyd Wright designs are not art because they are first and foremost meant to be functional buildings and the beauty of the design is secondary?
The first and foremost purpose is to achieve a sense of beauty while maintaining practical applications. That level of architecture is more akin to nuscienced sculpting

There's also things like design, where utility and creativity are at an exact 50/50. a lot of architecture is like that.
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Re: What is art?

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:07 pm

This seems like fun, I'll play.
godix wrote:So what you're saying is that Frank Lloyd Wright designs are not art because they are first and foremost meant to be functional buildings and the beauty of the design is secondary?
I wouldn't say they are first and foremost meant to be functional buildings. If that was the primary purpose, he would use much more efficient/practical designs.
Rwanda31337 wrote:Mood-altering drugs and hallucinogens are art.
"...the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses" I'm not sure you can consider that natural.
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Re: What is art?

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:33 am

Vivaldi wrote:
Vivaldi wrote:Okay, because people find playing with semantics so funny, I'll add an addendum.


-Art is anything created deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.


Please tell if you find a loophole, but all that generally means is a need to reword for semantic reasons. The meaning is the same. And art is still an objective term
-Art is anything created via skill, deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose of it's existence being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.

Masturbation is not art.
Sorry. The art community recognizes readymades and "found art" as art. No planning or forethought are put into them. They are ordinary objects simply declared art by someone. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?
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Re: What is art?

Post by Kevmaster » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:26 am

Art is the outcome of a creative process which was created with the purpose of creation. Any other intion makes it commodity.

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Re: What is art?

Post by Vivaldi » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:53 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Vivaldi wrote:
Vivaldi wrote:Okay, because people find playing with semantics so funny, I'll add an addendum.


-Art is anything created deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.


Please tell if you find a loophole, but all that generally means is a need to reword for semantic reasons. The meaning is the same. And art is still an objective term
-Art is anything created via skill, deliberately by humans with the first and foremost purpose of it's existence being the stimulation of emotion though our natural senses, or through conscious thought.

Masturbation is not art.
Sorry. The art community recognizes readymades and "found art" as art. No planning or forethought are put into them. They are ordinary objects simply declared art by someone. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?
That would fall under conceptual art, in which the "object" is not the whole of the art piece itself, but rather a method by which to communicate an idea. The idea and its relation to the object being the human creation.
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Re: What is art?

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:06 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?
Making more Divine Art, like sunsets and junk.
[implying that there is forethought in "found art"]
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Re: What is art?

Post by NS » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:14 am

Art is anything that the maker of said art likes to believe is art. It may suck in the eyes of many, but it's all subjective. There is no right or wrong answer, which is why this discussion/"debate" always angers me XD.

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