Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by hasteroth » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:25 am

Koopiskeva wrote:Oh btw, that interview from from awhile ago.. wish I had actually looked into it more instead of just winging it the interview.. I do believe AMVs are still art, but not so much with the examples I had mentioned in the interview (or rather, with better examples of why I think so).

Either way, whether AMVs are art or not doesn't really matter. I just hate the condescending tone/attitude of people that look down on editing AMVs.

PS - the "Your Gone" avatar was my a-m-v.org profile pic for that short period of time. Nice.
Yeah I get that alot on IRC.

I've actually been banned from a channel simply for being an AMV editor, even though I'm still yet to release anything.

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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Ingow » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:20 am

ONLY THE POPULAR KIDS GET INTERVIEWED

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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Koopiskeva » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:30 am

Ingow wrote:ONLY THE POPULAR KIDS GET INTERVIEWED

I AM SO JEALOUS
Me too. :\
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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Megamom » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:34 am

I think the AMV are art ... that depends on the elemét to be added along the edition!

Digital art is an unavoidable reality!


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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Otohiko » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:29 pm

Nagimom wrote: Digital art is an unavoidable reality!
Actually, that brings up a far better question that needs to be addressed in interviews: are AMVs real?

Cause I'm not so sure, given all the evidence against them :amv:
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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by hasteroth » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:18 pm

Otohiko wrote:
Nagimom wrote: Digital art is an unavoidable reality!
Actually, that brings up a far better question that needs to be addressed in interviews: are AMVs real?

Cause I'm not so sure, given all the evidence against them :amv:
No.

They aren't real.

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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:28 pm

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anyways,

The question is moot if you don't know what art is, or if your definition of art is different from mine.
So in that sense I agree with Koops subjective stance where it's all a matter of perspective...

But just so we're all on the same page, I'll be the lazy ass that quotes Wikipedia:

"Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements
in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions."


... so in that sense AMV's can be art. The problem I think most people have is when an AMV doesn't appeal to *their* senses or emotions. As self-centered as that may sound, it does raise a valid point: The Universality of Human Reactions. Some people might say that on a very basic level, people should react in certain ways to certain things. I remember this being discussed on these boards a couple months ago [regarding people being hardwired to perceive audio/video in certain ways... and how it applies to editing]. I've been thinking about this and I'm still not sure if I agree with it. Maybe on some level human reaction is universal, but I don't think that's what makes it art per se; that's just what makes it *good* art. People who claim AMV's are not art simply use a different definition than the above, and I would be happy to hear it.
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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Vivaldi » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:44 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:
... so in that sense AMV's can be art. The problem I think most people have is when an AMV doesn't appeal to *their* senses or emotions. As self-centered as that may sound, it does raise a valid point: The Universality of Human Reactions. Some people might say that on a very basic level, people should react in certain ways to certain things. I remember this being discussed on these boards a couple months ago [regarding people being hardwired to perceive audio/video in certain ways... and how it applies to editing]. I've been thinking about this and I'm still not sure if I agree with it. Maybe on some level human reaction is universal, but I don't think that's what makes it art per se; that's just what makes it *good* art. People who claim AMV's are not art simply use a different definition than the above, and I would be happy to hear it.
Meh, we live in an objective world viewed through subjective lenses. (~IMO ironically enough) Just because something doesn't appeal to a person, doesn't mean it's not art. I don't think anything's ever been created that can elicit the same emotional response from people 100% of the time. It's just too circumstantial. I think being designed for an emotional response is enough to qualify something as art.

I guess I'm one of those people who think the term art should be objective, with only what should fall under that being subjective.

IIRC the only things in emotional reaction that can hold true in all people, even across cultural boundaries, are the acts of of tension and release. Beyond that you simply have to focus on your target audiences senseabilities.
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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by The Origonal Head Hunter » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:45 pm

I was hardly listening to Koop because my attention always drifted back to the dude's shit-eating grin.
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Re: Are AMVs art? - Interview with Koop

Post by Minimoto » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:48 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:I was hardly listening to Koop because my attention always drifted back to the dude's shit-eating grin.
I was staring more at that avatar "Your Gone" at the bottom left.
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