Is Posting an AMV illegal?

Sibre · Post by **Sibre** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:32 pm

I agree with Mr. Pilkington...I can't remember how many times i have seen an amv and then went and either bought or rented the anime, or bought a CD because of what I saw. AMV's are an art form. They promote anime, and the artists who make the music. I say, go for it. They should thank the AMV community for bringing anime awareness to a crowd who otherwise would have sat at home watching The Simpsons.

MysticleRogue · Post by **MysticleRogue** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:58 pm

y would it matter if its legal or not? it's not like you're harming anyone or using it to make a profit. if anything, you're exposing people to new music and animes. i say screw the legal matters and continue making and sharing those vids.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:10 pm

hmmm . . . well technically no!

there is a claus which states that the use of ANY Audio portion of a song over 5 -or- 12 seconds must be given credit ^^

there is a claus which states that the use of ANY recognizable Video/Animation is considered Theft ^^;;;;;

so what ??

AND there are people who are doing these series that get a BETTER idea of THEIR series - when they see what WE do with THEIR series - in AMV's

( i.e. Tokyo Mew Mew, InuYasha, "Vandread 2nd stage" was updated by the AMV's seen by/of what people wanted to see from the original series, Gundam Seed ( hehe - your missing some good humour and action here ))

yeah - there are pro's and con's to everything in life . . but if it helps someone, even one person, to see what you've made then what can it hurt ^__^

traxx

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:22 pm

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Hurrah, we've already become like a father to him.

Saeth1 · Post by **Saeth1** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:27 pm

they show these AMV's at conventions in which the directors, producers, and voice actors of these very series are in attendance :p Even if distributing them is technically illegal, they won't stop ya :p

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:30 pm

They'll just steal your cookies.

Darn rotten no good cookie thieves!

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 1:50 am

Steal my cookies? Then they'll see what pr0n sites I go to!

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 12:31 pm

post-it wrote:there is a claus which states that the use of ANY Audio portion of a song over 5 -or- 12 seconds must be given credit ^^

Popular misconception. Legally, any audio sampling *at all* is a potential copyright infringement; it's up to a court to decide how much falls under the "fair use" (U.S.) or "fair dealing" (Canada) exemption. Commercial use would ordinarily never be "fair", no matter how short the sample might be; it's only use for research, review, and a few similar purposes that can sometimes be copyright-free. There is no fixed limit on how many notes or how many seconds a sample can be. Also, the important point isn't that you must give credit, but that you must pay royalties. There is something called a mechanical license, and in the U.S. it's compulsory, which means that under certain circumstances they can't stop you from "covering" a song - but even in that case you still have to pay for it, you just don't have to worry about them saying "no". For an AMV you aren't covering the song anyway, and you are looking for what's called a "synchronization" license - which I'm pretty sure they're allowed to say "no" to, as well as demanding royalties.

post-it wrote:there is a claus which states that the use of ANY recognizable Video/Animation is considered Theft ^^;;;;;

It's not theft, and it's only "considered" theft by people who have watched too many "public service" propaganda announcements. Use of video without permission is infringement of copyright. Copyright holders are trying very hard to make you believe that those are the same thing (e.g. with this stupid "theft is theft" ad campaign), but legally they are not the same. They're covered by totally different laws and no useful purpose is served by deliberately confusing theft with copyright infringement. Don't buy into the propaganda.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 3:16 pm

koronoru wrote:
post-it wrote:there is a claus which states that the use of ANY Audio portion of a song over 5 -or- 12 seconds must be given credit ^^
Popular misconception. Legally, any audio sampling *at all* is a potential copyright infringement; . . . Commercial use would ordinarily never be "fair" . . . the important point isn't that you must give credit, but that you must pay royalties.
. . . For an AMV you aren't covering the song anyway, and you are looking for what's called a "synchronization" license - which I'm pretty sure they're allowed to say "no" to, as well as demanding royalties.

T_T . . . confused . . .

koronoru wrote:
post-it wrote:there is a claus which states that the use of ANY recognizable Video/Animation is considered Theft ^^;;;;;
It's not theft . . . Don't buy into the propaganda.

0_0 . . . òó Grrr!

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 3:20 pm

if we have baught the recording and are using it - you mean "we have to pay for it again" ! ??